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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:49 PM Sep 2013

i just looked at sons instagram for the first time. he is at college, and look

how well he is doing, lol





i am so proud of him. then one of his friends asks, .... "got yourself a shemale?"

ahhhhhhm, bad boy. and i am gonna be seeing that boy who said that. he is in so much trouble. my younger son really does not want to be bringing this friend over for a while. but, i will remember.

my oldest, at college answered. " no, just giving you the facts."

ahhhhh, i love my boys.

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i just looked at sons instagram for the first time. he is at college, and look (Original Post) seabeyond Sep 2013 OP
Nice! ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #1
I have never understood GeoWilliam750 Sep 2013 #2
I couldn't agree with you more. When raised to believe women are weak and the very Essence if who seabeyond Sep 2013 #3
The world is already shifting rapidly GeoWilliam750 Sep 2013 #4
tippity tap tap to each other on a keyboard rather than laughing over a coffee or a glass of wine. seabeyond Sep 2013 #6
Also GeoWilliam750 Sep 2013 #5

GeoWilliam750

(2,523 posts)
2. I have never understood
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 07:58 PM
Sep 2013

How being weak makes somebody more attractive.

The world is again getting tougher, and it is far easier - and funner - to travel through life with the strong than with the weak.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. I couldn't agree with you more. When raised to believe women are weak and the very Essence if who
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 08:10 PM
Sep 2013

Your gender is in masculinity is the strength to take care of the weak, then we can get why men feel they need the weak woman, it allows them to define themselves. And why women feel they need to pretend weak, it defines their mans masculinity... Lol.

But, what a burden it is on men and what a waste of women

GeoWilliam750

(2,523 posts)
4. The world is already shifting rapidly
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 08:58 PM
Sep 2013

And there have been a number of books written about "the end of men".

Looking at my daughter's high school, most of the really smart kids were girls. Boys waste years of their lives with video games, and by the end of high school, so many boys are so far, far behind girls that universities seem to skew admissions in favour of the boys wherever possible. It seems that so many mothers teach their daughters to be strong whilst almost making pets of their sons; the first seems good, the second not so much. Possibly it is just my imagination, but it also seems that so many mothers of sons teach their sons that no girl is good enough for them, possibly being one of the causes of misogyny.

Over time, better education and better focus by women will win on balance, but there will still be so many - both women and men - unnecessarily betrayed by their society and abandoned by the roadside. It is now almost impossible for most of the population to be able to support their families with hope for the future whilst still having enough time to be genuinely involved in our children's lives. We are consuming our people at a frightening pace for a world that has far, far more than we need as a society, and I am not sure what will make things better, but stronger unions would seem to be a start.

We have lost so much structure and community in the world, with so few places for face to face interaction as equals. Lost are so much of the elks, moose, masons, Eastern Star, odd fellows, KOC, toastmasters, rotary club, unions, and so many other societies where people could meet frequently to rub off the rough edges, and realise that their differences are really very, very small - and their shared interests very large. We have become atomised internet dwellers, so that even you and I tippity tap tap to each other on a keyboard rather than laughing over a coffee or a glass of wine.

It is a burden on all of us, and a waste of all of us.


 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. tippity tap tap to each other on a keyboard rather than laughing over a coffee or a glass of wine.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:23 PM
Sep 2013

what a wonderful, wonderful post.

sigh... lets start from the top. i raised two boys. well, still raising one. i get three more years before sending him off. i agree with you. and it does not have to be that way. academics were always so huge in our house. sports... (i was an athlete for a couple decades, it was the big in our house) take a back seat. yea, if athleticism is accomplished and put in the hard work, time and effort, but the academics is where we strive for excellence.

that being the case, from day one with my boys, it was their reality. and they did and are fulfilling that in school. they also struggled mightily with peers that embrace stupid, were proud of stupid. my son tells me, by the time they make it to their junior/senior year, they start taking pride in academic accomplishments. but, unfortunately, for too many, that mentality already created a fail.

i think the biggest gift my parents gave me in the 60's and 70's, is they did not raise me as a gender, but a person. the expectations were greater (cause i was more serious) than my brothers. i was expected to excel along with my brothers, not only academically but in sports, also. i swam right alongside the guys on the team, we were literally all treated equally. if i was faster than the guys in my lane, i went first. that was not uncommon and nothing was thought about it. at a time when not a lot of girls had the chance or were able.

i give the same to my boys. they have to prove to me, intellectually, there is a gender difference, not just cause a tv commercial tell them so. both boys excel in reading. one is the top 5% of the top 10% in the nation in reading comprehension. but but but... that is girls domain. my oldest was so verbally articulate at a very young age, it would irritate adults cause he did not sound like a kid. but but but... that is a girls domain. both boys (again, especially eldest) excel at expressing, identifying, defining their emotions, what they feel and resolutions. that was a must. simply learned behavior.

we can do so much more for our boys, if people would stop all the stupid ass conditioning we feed to them regularly. it hurts the people they love, but most... for a life time, it will hurt them in so many ways. and it is totally unnecessary.

as far as the world we are creating to live.... i hear ya. i want to live to see where this boiling vat of experiment leaves all of us.

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