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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:50 AM Aug 2015

WashPo: Bernie Sanders draws 28,000 people in Portland, his campaign says —

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/10/bernie-sanders-draws-28000-people-in-portland-his-campaign-says/

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Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, who has been drawing eye-poppingly large crowds on the campaign trail, on Sunday night attracted his largest audience yet: about 28,000 people in Portland, Ore., according to his campaign.

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont who has emerged as the leading alternative to Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination, appeared at a Portland arena with a capacity close to 20,000, aides said. An additional 8,000 people gathered in overflow areas set up for the event, aides said, citing numbers provided by officials from the venue.
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Feelin' that BERN baby!!!!!!!!

xposted in LBN but got locked - Forgotheconsequences posted same thing around 12:30 a.m. So, I kicked it up.
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WashPo: Bernie Sanders draws 28,000 people in Portland, his campaign says — (Original Post) LiberalElite Aug 2015 OP
28,000! ! ! merrily Aug 2015 #1
:) why waste the money, he's doing fine with the free coverage! peacebird Aug 2015 #2
Gosh darn it, people like him. I was just wondering. merrily Aug 2015 #3
No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #4
some repugs couldn't draw 28 rurallib Aug 2015 #5
Speaking of Rick Santorum . . . . . Divernan Aug 2015 #24
Please don't.... daleanime Aug 2015 #27
lol. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #36
So when will the national media start covering him? When he fills 100,000 seat stadiums? A Simple Game Aug 2015 #6
Yep, media is a joke kracer20 Aug 2015 #9
Yeah the glimmer of hope for MSNBC started fading back when Donahue was fired. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #11
MSNBC... icarusxat Aug 2015 #57
You mean State News aka Oligarchy News? Never. nt valerief Aug 2015 #21
yes, but don't tell them yet. The week after Dean bbgrunt Aug 2015 #55
Bern baby Bern! RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #7
Any bets on how long it takes to see "his campaign SAYS", elsewhere. djean111 Aug 2015 #8
....! Derailleur... KoKo Aug 2015 #12
Sanders will not be derailled! ananda Aug 2015 #14
They've got nothing but "HRC talks to 60 millionaires on private estate". Divernan Aug 2015 #15
I have been wondering - does anybody really sincerely and lucidly believe that this enthusiasm djean111 Aug 2015 #17
I don't think artislife Aug 2015 #38
Definitely not. Many had already left the Party or were always Indies. merrily Aug 2015 #42
I will write in Bernie. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #58
Before Bernie announced, a relative told me she was going to write in Warren, but merrily Aug 2015 #59
At last night's PDX rally, there were tables that had flyers saying you must register as a Democrat oregonjen Aug 2015 #26
Thank you for that info - I am quite the grandma about this sort of thing. djean111 Aug 2015 #29
This is so key artislife Aug 2015 #39
Is that true? In Massachusetts, I can vote in the Democratic primary if I am merrily Aug 2015 #43
I know for a fact that many of us attending last night were carrying voter registration forms... cascadiance Aug 2015 #33
Thanks! I don't know why I worried about that! djean111 Aug 2015 #35
There is an Independent Party. So, that gets confusing. merrily Aug 2015 #44
Yep. But he never asked me about it, and just checked it. djean111 Aug 2015 #45
Isn't that fun, when you can relate to a relative though politics? merrily Aug 2015 #47
i noticed the..."his campaign says" too questionseverything Aug 2015 #41
good point. Or, call the venue. merrily Aug 2015 #48
There were Thousands more fredamae Aug 2015 #10
Hey...I watched the KGW feed and I'm in Los Angeles. SoapBox Aug 2015 #28
It would have been a fredamae Aug 2015 #32
I watched it from 45 feet Pastiche423 Aug 2015 #62
Shouldn't have been locked in LBN; was w/in 12 hours of event. Divernan Aug 2015 #13
It was locked because someone else beat me to it by LiberalElite Aug 2015 #52
Channeling Emily Litella: "Oh . . . . never mind." Divernan Aug 2015 #53
hehehe LiberalElite Aug 2015 #54
Earlier Hillary came to Portland, too. DrBulldog Aug 2015 #16
HRC slumming in $1.7 Mil. home of Portland trust fund baby. Divernan Aug 2015 #19
Not fer nuthin, but $1.7 million does not sound like a lot for a home to these merrily Aug 2015 #46
Location, location, location Divernan Aug 2015 #50
It seems ironic that you needed $2,700 per person to see her speak when she was here... cascadiance Aug 2015 #34
Yet Fox is still bashing Hillary 24/7. Chipper Chat Aug 2015 #18
Are they still calling the last election tavernier Aug 2015 #20
For one thing, they still have all their Hillary stuff from 2008, and she still has that djean111 Aug 2015 #30
Republicans are just as adamant as MSNBC that Hillary will be the nominee. merrily Aug 2015 #49
Let them artislife Aug 2015 #40
Shouldn't this be in (primary) GD? kenfrequed Aug 2015 #22
Should also be there & should have been in LBN Divernan Aug 2015 #23
I stated above that I posted in LBN and it was blocked because LiberalElite Aug 2015 #60
If you want to post it go ahead but I'm avoiding GD-P nt LiberalElite Aug 2015 #61
I love Portland. LWolf Aug 2015 #25
Well done Portland. azmom Aug 2015 #31
Just wow, here in NY we're waiting for our chance Babel_17 Aug 2015 #37
The media are starting to listen Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #51
No need for debates yet, there's no public appetite for them! Babel_17 Aug 2015 #56

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. 28,000! ! !
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:02 AM
Aug 2015

Does anyone know if Senator No Name Recognition has run any ads yet?

I have not seen any in Boston.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
6. So when will the national media start covering him? When he fills 100,000 seat stadiums?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:04 AM
Aug 2015

Media in this Country is a farce. Everyone of them is a propaganda unit for corporations. When we retake the Country, breakup of the media conglomerates needs to be one of the first priorities.

kracer20

(199 posts)
9. Yep, media is a joke
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:21 AM
Aug 2015

I've been listening to Morning Joe go on and on about Trump and Fox news. He was saying that the RNC wouldn't allow MSNBC to host a debate, then sort of under his breath said that "pretty soon I would, things are changing pretty quickly at this network"

Sounds to me like MSNBC is transforming in to FOX.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
11. Yeah the glimmer of hope for MSNBC started fading back when Donahue was fired.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:36 AM
Aug 2015

It's not even about ratings, it has become almost pure propaganda and fluff. I can't believe how all of the networks latch onto tragic, but what used to be just local, stories and bleed them for days on end as if there is nothing else worth airing. It's not just one, they all grab onto the same stories. Used to be Andy Rooney was the only one that did local stories on a national show and that was always a feel good story not a disaster. I grew up on Cronkite so I can see the difference, but younger people probably have no idea what they are being fed.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
55. yes, but don't tell them yet. The week after Dean
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:59 PM
Aug 2015

claimed he would break up media, his scream was all over the news.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Any bets on how long it takes to see "his campaign SAYS", elsewhere.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:10 AM
Aug 2015

Early this morning, I saw a thread dismissed by a usual suspect, with a one-word "right".

A word popped into my head - derailleur - to change to another track, usually used as a description for a bicycle gear mechanism. Now - this word just comes to me every time I see an attempt made to derail a thread - thread-jacking, jeering at sources, one-word or emoticon posts trying to do the same thing. Now, it is just funny and telling and illustrative. So if I just post "derailleur fail", I am not just thinking I am in a bicycle group!

This is so wonderful about these crowds! And it is all word of mouth, pretty much. No help from the media. I hope someone is passing out information on how to register, how to change registration if necessary, when the primary is for that state. Because I suspect that many people who are fairly new to the political process might be under the impression that they can just wait until November 2016 and vote for Bernie. And many people do not really check this stuff out on the net.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. They've got nothing but "HRC talks to 60 millionaires on private estate".
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:16 AM
Aug 2015
http://fox13now.com/2015/08/05/hillary-clinton-in-utah-for-fundraiser/

PARK CITY, Utah — Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton visited Utah Wednesday for a fundraising event.

The fundraiser was held at a private residence in the Glenwild gated community in Park City.
Littlefield estimated 60 people
attended an early rally that cost $2700 a head, and more attended the larger event, paying $500 each. If those estimates are true, then the event raised more than $200,000 for the Clinton campaign.

(Doing the math: 60 at$2700 each =s $162,000. $38,000 @ $500 each =s another 76 people for a grand total of 136 payees.)
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
17. I have been wondering - does anybody really sincerely and lucidly believe that this enthusiasm
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:22 AM
Aug 2015

for Bernie would be the same for Hillary, if she is the nominee? I do not. A visit from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren could not make me enthusiastic about Hillary. Or any other candidate, really. I love Bernie's differences, and, these days, just being a Democrat ain't what is used to be. The Dem platform is as disregarded as an old peeling deck, just gussied up with new paint at election time.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
38. I don't think
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

all his supporters are transferable.

I believe that if he is the nom, we will get more real progressives down the ticket. If she is the nom, I think we won't.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. Definitely not. Many had already left the Party or were always Indies.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

There's been a lot of discussion on social media about making sure you re-register to vote however you need to in your state in order to be able to vote in the Democratic primary.

If he loses the primary, the Party will lose all or most of those voters, unless they write in Bernie in the general. If he gets Republican votes, not many of those will transfer to Hillary.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
59. Before Bernie announced, a relative told me she was going to write in Warren, but
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

I didn't ask her if she meant primary or general.

Turns out, it's only decisive matters in certain counties, anyway, not purple states, but purple counties.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778561

oregonjen

(3,347 posts)
26. At last night's PDX rally, there were tables that had flyers saying you must register as a Democrat
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

in order to vote for Bernie in the Primary.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. Thank you for that info - I am quite the grandma about this sort of thing.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:52 AM
Aug 2015

Comes from working as a Quality Assurance engineer and tester for a long time. "What could possibly go wrong, and did we allow for that" sort of thing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
43. Is that true? In Massachusetts, I can vote in the Democratic primary if I am
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

registered either "Democrat" or "unenrolled." I just cannot vote in a Democratic primary if I am registered Republican, Green, Libertarian, etc.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
33. I know for a fact that many of us attending last night were carrying voter registration forms...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:05 AM
Aug 2015

... with them to hand out! There's a lot of efforts to get people campaigning. And those attending from Vancouver, Washington didn't need Washington voter registration forms, because they have open primaries in that state.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
35. Thanks! I don't know why I worried about that!
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Aug 2015

Maybe because my grandson told me he will be voting for Bernie in the primary. He said checked the "Independent" box when he registered during his visit with the Drivers License people, thinking it meant, well, independent. He should have chosen non-affiliated or whatever they have here in Florida. So I have to get his registration changed. And of course you cannot do that online in Florida yet. You can only fill it out and print it, you still have to get it to the Supervisor of Elections.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
45. Yep. But he never asked me about it, and just checked it.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:42 PM
Aug 2015

He still has his ADHD impulsive thing going on. What is cool now is that he will (when he is not working!) interrupt his computer gaming and read the Bernie subreddit. And ask me if I have heard the latest. I would never have thought he would be that interested in politics. When I told him that, he said it would be a mistake to think that all the young people are interested in politics - they are interested in Bernie. I don't think they are going to buy into that Team! stuff. For better or for worse, that's just how it is.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
47. Isn't that fun, when you can relate to a relative though politics?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:48 PM
Aug 2015

My whole family--nuclear-aunts, uncles cousins, with only one exception, is Democratic. So far, everyone who has declared has declared for Bernie, from the oldest (80) to the youngest. So, get togethers with any group of relatives are not only trouble free on that score, but fun.

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
41. i noticed the..."his campaign says" too
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:16 PM
Aug 2015

i had to laugh, thinking well golly if there was only someway the reporters could confirm it...like being there themselves

ha

seriously tho, we are gonna have to do the work, the 1%ers msm is not gonna do it for us

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
10. There were Thousands more
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:27 AM
Aug 2015

watching on YouTube, KGW and KATU etc who couldn't Be there.
Bernie Rocked the PNW

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
28. Hey...I watched the KGW feed and I'm in Los Angeles.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

And I saw that pdxdavid watched it in South Korea!

Really hard to tell how many folks around the world watched.

While I would like to see/hear about him in MSM, I am concerned that it will all be FuksNews style lies...the Oligarchs seem to be blatant in their so-called new reporting. I HOPE there is a plan in place or being worked on to combat that. Yes, we do have the social media (until the Oligarchs try and shut it down or pull the plug...your conspiracy theory may vary ) but not every single person is plugged in. Just say'n...

I must say, I loved the warm up by Symone Sanders...the woman is FIREY!

Go Bernie! Go Team Bernie! We Stand Together!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
32. It would have been a
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:00 AM
Aug 2015

300 mile trip for me to attend, so I-along with you also watched it on KGW

And yes! Symone has a total Green Thumb for Inspiring and Energizing a crowd and she's a Reasonable, Classy, Powerful-No Nonsense woman! I like people like that.

When I grow up....

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. Shouldn't have been locked in LBN; was w/in 12 hours of event.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:10 AM
Aug 2015

Were you given the courtesy of an explanation/justification? Who was the ''host" who blocked you? Somebody please explain to me why this story was not huge news. Historic crowd size for primary race. It's news, and when posted within 12 hours, it should qualify as late breaking.

On edit: as I type this the featured stories on home page/Breaking News are:
Advocates plan protest against gun shop opening
South Korea pissed at North Korea
Bangladesh Tiger poachers killed
Worker at wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant dies from head injury

And, oh yeah, a pro HRC opinion piece incorporating the fact from last Thursday.
“Republicans are systematically . . . trying to stop millions of American citizens from voting,” Clinton wrote in a Twitter message Thursday typical of her recent postings. “What part of democracy are they afraid of?”

A twitter message from 5 days ago qualifies as LBN because it was written about in an opinion piece?

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
52. It was locked because someone else beat me to it by
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:46 AM - Edit history (1)

posting the same link around 12:30 a.m. when I was in sleepy-bye land.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
16. Earlier Hillary came to Portland, too.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:17 AM
Aug 2015

She talked in secret to a couple of hundred of people with fat wallets, then left.

She had no time for Oregon's "rabble".

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
19. HRC slumming in $1.7 Mil. home of Portland trust fund baby.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:43 AM
Aug 2015
HRC slumming it in $1.7 Mil.home of Philips/Andover, Harvard grad.

Some people are said to have been born with a silver spoon in their mouths; HRC's trust-fund baby host, heir to banking fortune, is described (see below) as having been born with a platinum spoon in his mouth.
Same old, same old - Hillary hangin' with her peeps, the very rich, the one percent. And as F. Scott Fitzgerald accurately observed: "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them. Unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different." Now granted HRC & Bill weren't born very rich, but have we ever seen any political pair pursue the life style of the rich and famous with more dedication and determination than the Clintons?

Read more at http://quotationsbook.com/quote/34538/#pbK32mF9SFxqOOV8.99

Where
Home of Win McCormack and Carol Butler - 11878 SW Riverwood Road, Portland
http://politicalpartytime.org/party/39929/

Meet HRC's host: Win McCormack
McCormack is the author of: You Don't Know Me: A Citizen's Guide to Republican Family Values. Therein he documented, among other shortcomings, 22 examples of adultery by Republican politicians and activists. He described these acts as "overwhelming deviance from professed moral standards". Ironic that Win trashes Republican sex offenders, when McCormack served as Chair of the Oregon Steering Committee for Gary Hart's 1984 presidential campaign.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/win-mccormack/introduction-to-emyou-don_b_117106.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win_McCormack

I googled to see if Bill Clinton had reviewed or recommended this book, but apparently he hasn't. Hope Win has the good taste to put his extra copies of the book out of sight before HRC arrives.

And if anyone should have good taste and good manners it should be Win, who was born to great wealth and prepped at Phillips Academy Andover and got his BA at Harvard. Are y'all familiar w/ Phillips Exeter? Founded during the American Revolutionary War, doncha' know, Muffy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Academy

An Amazon review: McCormack as hypocrite
ByKip Dellinger "Kip"on August 25, 2008
Format: Paperback
As the publisher's review says, McCormack's complaint taken realistically seems to be of a problem endemic to American society rather than Republicans or their politicians. In fact, it's almost laughable when one thinks about FDR, JFK, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Gary Hart and on and on.

But, gentle readers, do not fear for Win McCormack. He is an heir (a principal one) to the McCormack family wealth - the McCormack brothers that founded Illinois Tool Co. (used to be Illinois Tool & Die Works) and Northern Trust (one of America's oldest and most pretigious "big" banks).

Like too many trust fund babys born with the silver spoon (in this case Platinum) in their mouths, and taken care of for their entire lives by trust distributions, McCormack believes that he is entitled to tell the rest of the world how to live. A bit of digging around into who he is and what he came from, will reveal enough hypocrisy on his part to discredit his Republicans as the country's only bad guys.

http://www.amazon.com/You-Dont-Know-Me-Republican/product-reviews/0979419867/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

merrily

(45,251 posts)
46. Not fer nuthin, but $1.7 million does not sound like a lot for a home to these
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:43 PM
Aug 2015

ears. A platinum spoon baby in Boston would be living in a town house worth many millions. And still be lucky to have a parking space. A $1.7 million dollar condo in a great building in a great area of Boston might not even be overly impressive.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
50. Location, location, location
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:32 PM
Aug 2015

as the real estate folks say. Don't think Portland has been hit with the inflated prices of San Francisco and Seattle.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
34. It seems ironic that you needed $2,700 per person to see her speak when she was here...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Aug 2015

And we had over 10 times that amount (28,000) in PEOPLE not dollars that came to see him speak!

Who's the voice of the people Hillary?

Chipper Chat

(9,703 posts)
18. Yet Fox is still bashing Hillary 24/7.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:35 AM
Aug 2015

I watched Fox last evening because the other cable channels were a wasteland (The Hunt with Jon Walsh - UGGGGG). The Harris lady and her guests were spewing on and on about Hil's emails, Bengazi and how it will eventually sink her and Walker will be President - yada yada. The Fox Ivory Tower, The CNN_MIssing Plane station, and MSNBC-see no evil, hear no evil,suck-up-to-corps - they are all light years behind reality.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
30. For one thing, they still have all their Hillary stuff from 2008, and she still has that
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:57 AM
Aug 2015

baggage. It does not matter one iota how gracefully she handles it, it is not about her, but about GOP voter perception.
Maybe the ongoing "Hillary is inevitable" thing is not working well in that regard, because why would they need to spew about anyone else, if HRC is "it"? The current spew gets noticed by GOP voters AND Democratic Primary voters.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
49. Republicans are just as adamant as MSNBC that Hillary will be the nominee.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:52 PM
Aug 2015

Comments are along the lines of "He can beat Hillary," not "He can beat the Democratic nominee."

Food for thought.

Lots of thought.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
22. Shouldn't this be in (primary) GD?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:17 AM
Aug 2015

That is an insane turnout!

Shouldn't this discussion be out in the primary general discussion room where everyone can see it?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
23. Should also be there & should have been in LBN
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:22 AM
Aug 2015

But it's fun to discuss it in the Bernie group without all the snarky, true-believer inane, vacuous comments and rollies.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
60. I stated above that I posted in LBN and it was blocked because
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:43 AM
Aug 2015

someone else posted it around 12:30 a.m. I'm avoiding GD-P.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
56. No need for debates yet, there's no public appetite for them!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:05 AM
Aug 2015

Yeah, I think DWS at the DNC is going to feel pressure from the media for not letting them wet their beak.
They'd get to make money while actually doing their job, and performing a public service.

"And now for the trifecta"

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