Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumMachinists Union Members Outraged Over Hillary Clinton Endorsement, Say They Want Bernie Sanders
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/18321/bernie_sanders_machinists1The IAMs justification of their endorsement this early in the presidential race mirrors the remarks made by AFT president Randi Weingarten shortly after her unions endorsement. If you want to shape something, you get in before the primaries, she said. Like the AFT, the IAM endorsement was based largely on the results of an internal survey of membersa method that some members of the union have questioned.
I cannot describe how disappointed I am with the IAM endorsing Hillary, says Al Wagner, a journeyman auto technician and member of IAM Automotive Mechanics Local 701 in Chicago. The IAM is a great union and I am very proud to be a member. But the leaders went about this endorsement the wrong way.
IAM boasts a membership roll of nearly 600,000, including retirees, but says that an internal survey of 1,700 active members conducted in early August, in which 71% of participants voted for Clinton, proves that the Clinton endorsement is indicative of the rank and files desire for the 2016 presidential race. But on the IAM Facebook page, with mentions of Clintons associations with Wall Street and the fiercely unpopular free trade agreements abound, Bernie Sanders has been overwhelmingly touted as the only truly pro-worker candidate by hundreds of members on the unions endorsement posts.
"Awful choice! I'm with Bernie," wrote one person claiming to be a member on the union's Facebook page. "What a sham! Not in the least bit democratic ... -- only 1700 out of 500,000 members is not a majority. ... At monthly meetings, members talk about the real voice of labor (Bernie Sanders) who BTW is beating her in the CNN [poll] after every meeting. You guys need to wake up and listen to your members," wrote another.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)talk about mixed messages.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)How could they be so misinformed?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Solidarity!
marble falls
(57,479 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Buying off leadership. This is what's wrong with this country and we all know it. That's why Bernie resonates...and even Trump God forbid. Chickens are coming home to roost. You can't be a phony,corporate sell out and make it now. That ship had sailed. People have caught on.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)to the broad base.
Why bust your ass to come up with policies that actually improve the lives of thousands of rank and file members when you can get what you want with wads of cash or a special favors to a couple of gatekeepers?
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts).... 'from your lips' to...etc:
>>You can't be a phony,corporate sell out and make it now. That ship had sailed. People have caught on.>>.
On can only hope. It appears to have caught on w. a large segment of the DEM base, and even..... incredibly and encouragingly... among the segment of the other party we used to call Tea Partiers. One of the good things about Trump is that he's so free-wheeling that he says things out loud that the GOP ( as well as the institutional DEM Party) knows to be true but wishes to obscure .... for obvious reasons ( i.e. They benefit financially from status quo politics.).
That's still a long way from everybody. Or even a majority, I suspect. But things are looking up in the "when are people going to wake the fuck up?" department.
merrily
(45,251 posts)sanguine or apathetic union members; and union members have more votes than union leadership. It's all good.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)She really resonates with carefully selected and meticulously guided focus groups!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)ANYONE with a CPAC is suspicious. As Bernie has said in the past, "The system is corrupt". Is this more proof?
Robbins
(5,066 posts)when hillary gets a major union's endorsement there is backlash from union members.seems like union leadership is helping unions live the clique of being corupted.
I think unions supporting corporate dems like hillary is stupid especilly when there is true friend of labor like Bernie.Corporative dems will use unions to get elected but won't have unions backs.instead will support free trade bills which hurt unions.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Hillary is so sharp, she's going to cut her own throat.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)It's called "informed consent". This is a hotly contested primary, to not let the membership hear even one debate .... oh wait, DWS and the DNC arranging the debate schedule as they have now gains more context.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I'd like to see that actual survey and see who participated (plus how they were selected).
These questions now pop into my brain when such things happen.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Gee...where have I heard that one!
fbc
(1,668 posts)They only draw more attention to her extreme unpopularity.