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74. He entered the situation with gun holstered and asked what was going on?

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:35 PM

Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 21, 2021, 01:53 PM - Edit history (1)

There was no one throwing fists or swinging knives when he arrived.

But then something erupted between Ma'khia and a girl in shorts where Ma'khia swung the knife at her and probably would have hit her if she didn't tumble backward. That's when the gun was drawn.

As the gun was being drawn, Ma'khia went for the girl in pink and was winding up her arm with a knife in hand. The girl in pink was pressed up against the car and could not move away easily.

I think the cop rolled in soft.

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Why didn't the cop in Ohio use a multi-shot taser on 15 yr old girl, Ma'khia Bryant?! [View all] uponit7771 Apr 2021 OP

Tasers have killed about a 1,000 people in the past 20 years, and police can do plenty of WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #1

In most cases a taser would be more than lethal than bullets? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #5

I disagree Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #10

From what I heard, she was shot within 10 seconds with no words exchanged or instructions given. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #30

I just watched the video I think the cop did yell "get down, get down".. before he shot. honest.abe Apr 2021 #43

Get down sounds like instructions for the crowd, Drop the knife would be for a knife wielder. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #72

Many cops seem to be looking for an excuse to kill black people samsingh Apr 2021 #2

Quite probably Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #13

That cop looks like a 90lb weakling who got his ass kicked from elementary all through high school. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #26

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #29

I tend to agree as well Bettie Apr 2021 #68

Her own neighbor, who is black, disagrees. Treefrog Apr 2021 #76

Yup, or get training on disarming murderous knife wielders? Arazi Apr 2021 #3

What kind of tasers sarisataka Apr 2021 #4

Yep, part of my point if they don't have them that's part of the reason this is 100% bullshit ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #7

Point taken sarisataka Apr 2021 #11

Whatever type the cop standing over her body in the picture had on his left side. haele Apr 2021 #42

I have seen a knife fight sarisataka Apr 2021 #50

Shoot to kill should (almost) NEVER be the first option,. MoonRiver Apr 2021 #6

Isn't her name Ma'khia Bryant? greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #8

Yes. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #18

thx uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22

The officer did the right thing. The most important thing he could do is save the other girls life marie999 Apr 2021 #9

He did the legally justifiable thing Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #14

Name one that you know for sure would have stopped her. marie999 Apr 2021 #20

The OP is about multi-shot tasers, are you of the opinion the girl could've muscled out ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #23

She was right next to the girl. Would you want to bet your daughter's life that the officer marie999 Apr 2021 #41

I'm knowledgeable about taser so I would ... NO DOUBT ... take that bet uponit7771 Apr 2021 #63

Are you a rep for the company? kcr Apr 2021 #83

No I no law enforcement who use them and they agree with me uponit7771 Apr 2021 #106

Oh, that's even better n/t kcr Apr 2021 #109

Start a gofundme, I'll part with a few dollars to see you complete this challenge Devil Child Apr 2021 #104

Really ?! Let's not devolve the conversation into deathly threats uponit7771 Apr 2021 #105

Deadly threats? Almost as if you sense the danger in your suggested policing methods Devil Child Apr 2021 #113

A taser versus bullets Yes I do and I'll stand by that that seems common sense, bullets are more ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #114

Do your police buddies tell you kcr Apr 2021 #125

of course not, they're basically saying tasers work to stop people and are less lethal bullets some uponit7771 Apr 2021 #126

You're leaving out whether they are equally as effective kcr Apr 2021 #127

Those links don't mention a 15 yr old girl, ... no either ignorant or starting shit uponit7771 Apr 2021 #128

Those links didn't mention any exceptions kcr Apr 2021 #131

We agree, here the context is a 15 yr old girl. To proffer that a 15 yr old girl would most likely uponit7771 Apr 2021 #132

To deny legit sources that say tasers aren't reliable kcr Apr 2021 #133

Chauvin's defense tried out of context test too and it didn't work, come on people ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #134

In no way is my argument even close to the Chauvin defense kcr Apr 2021 #135

Its out of context because those studies leave out "15 yr old girl" uponit7771 Apr 2021 #136

I'm sure your cop buddies were careful to include them kcr Apr 2021 #137

Yes, cause ... that's the context here. Would a taser flex a 15 yr old girl ... most likely yes uponit7771 Apr 2021 #138

Any choice that led to everyone alive is obviously the best outcome kcr Apr 2021 #140

They pulled a gun and shot her, so my answer would be Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #98

I have had several encounters with angry people with knives Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #97

Are you available 24/7 to respond to knife wielding suspects in the community? Devil Child Apr 2021 #122

Really, that is your respone? Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #144

In case of an immediate mortal threat to another person... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #95

He shot her four times. He was enjoying it. PSPS Apr 2021 #25

Hyped on adrenaline or wnylib Apr 2021 #103

With cops, it's usually steroids PSPS Apr 2021 #124

The BEST thing he could do is save both girl's lives greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #32

I agree rockfordfile Apr 2021 #141

He wasn't interested in assessing threats, de-escalation, or anything other than killing SoonerPride Apr 2021 #12

My BF told me about it in the middle of the night and dewsgirl Apr 2021 #19

YEP, people are saying he didn't have a taser and that's even worse !! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #24

He had a taser...there's a clear picture of him moments later with a taser in his utility belt greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #33

No, you're wrong. (n/t) TheProle Apr 2021 #37

I am guessing his magazine held many more than doc03 Apr 2021 #53

So the cop was clairvoyant? sarisataka Apr 2021 #60

He entered the situation with gun holstered and asked what was going on? SYFROYH Apr 2021 #74

The girl in pink was moving to talk to the cop when it started as well AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2021 #99

Yep. The notion that he immediately started blasting away for no reason is false kcr Apr 2021 #100

His fellow police officers shouted "Blue Lives Matter" at Black onlookers shortly after the killing StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #75

Reports I read said that the cops responded before wnylib Apr 2021 #107

Use of Baton was another option. rgbecker Apr 2021 #15

'If Makaila was indeed in the act of stabbing the other girls' Celerity Apr 2021 #149

Because that would have drawn criticism too. Plus, don't think a taser would have worked in this Hoyt Apr 2021 #16

Hoyt, come on man ... a 15 yr girl would've muscled out of multiple taser shots ?! REALLY?! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #28

No taser would have stopped her before stabbing girl in pink. Hoyt Apr 2021 #35

No .... Hoyt, the question was rhetorical. There's LITTLE TO NO chance of a 15 yr old girl ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #46

A taser would not have stopped her in time, sorry. Hoyt Apr 2021 #48

Hoyt, this is false on its face ... that's not an informed position. A 15 yr old girl would most uponit7771 Apr 2021 #55

A taser would not have gotten there in time, and would not have worked. Hoyt Apr 2021 #57

K, hoyt ... this even less informed. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #78

Not if the taser worked DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2021 #47

Same could be said for the gun, sigh given all things working properly most likely a 15 yr old uponit7771 Apr 2021 #52

Makaila Simon was killed two years ago by her boyfriend in an accidental shooting. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #17

Agreed. He was too quick to shoot. honest.abe Apr 2021 #21

He immediately pulls his gun. They just don't value black lives Thrill Apr 2021 #27

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #36

He saved a black life. TheProle Apr 2021 #40

We don't know that. We do know he took one Thrill Apr 2021 #45

Yep, next time they should smoke a cigarette and let the two Black ladies fight it out, one armed. Hoyt Apr 2021 #51

This isn't sarcasm and its uncalled for. You're wrong on the facts period. Most likely taser shots uponit7771 Apr 2021 #58

Not with a knife 0.005 seconds away from the lady in pink. Hoyt Apr 2021 #61

Oh please. You know damn well he wouldn't have immediately Thrill Apr 2021 #64

Like I said, next time I guess they should just stand back and let them fight it out, one armed. Hoyt Apr 2021 #69

Perhaps yes, up to a point. honest.abe Apr 2021 #77

He wasn't close enough to stop her so now you say he should allow the girl to stab another Black Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #146

This is a strange argument. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #94

The police were called to stop a stabbing. They pull up and the stabber Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #31

So you think multiple taser shots wouldn't have worked on a 15 yr old girl? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #34

Not in time. She could have stabbed the other girl before the officer marie999 Apr 2021 #44

But he had time to pull and shoot his gun. WTF? Xoan Apr 2021 #54

RIGHT !?!? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #59

I don't know. I don't honestly care about all the other things he might have done-- Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #49

Whether she was a "rage-filled maniac" or terrified, traumatized teenager trying to protect herself StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #80

Going by what I saw. You can create your own scenario and backstory Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #82

With a taser you get one shot. One. And they are not accurate. GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #147

Exactly this kcr Apr 2021 #56

That's an awful story--hard to get over witnessing that, I imagine. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #65

A few years later kcr Apr 2021 #67

That's a bit of PTSD, maybe, which anyone could have after that experience. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #70

Did he have a multi-shot taser? Nt hack89 Apr 2021 #38

They have tasers. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #39

So you're 100% sure the LEO on site had a taser? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #62

This is the cop who did the shooting, moments after the shooting greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #71

FUCKIN WOW !!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #81

He should have had the taser in hand immediately after getting out of his squad car, not the gun honest.abe Apr 2021 #84

Tasers are wonderful, magical peace bringers kcr Apr 2021 #85

They are less lethal. honest.abe Apr 2021 #86

Which is why they are overused the vast majority of the time kcr Apr 2021 #88

If not for a situation like this then what are they for? honest.abe Apr 2021 #89

For zapping people who talk back or give dirty looks kcr Apr 2021 #90

+1, ... and people are trying to ignore that part of my op as much as possible to the point of uponit7771 Apr 2021 #91

Yes. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #73

I'll offer one reason: There was no action when the pulled up. (devil's advocate) SYFROYH Apr 2021 #66

Life Ain't Hollywood Sympthsical Apr 2021 #87

Bullets are not guaranteed either he had to pump her five times where a taser would have flexed her uponit7771 Apr 2021 #117

Tasers. Don't. Always. Work. Sympthsical Apr 2021 #129

Neither. do. bullets ... come on people, stop. A taser would flex a 15yr old girl there's a high uponit7771 Apr 2021 #130

You know, it will really be sad if this gets turned into a promotion of tasers kcr Apr 2021 #92

The point here is black people are met with more deadly force than white people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #110

Yes, they are. That is an undeniable fact. kcr Apr 2021 #123

I'll say this and leave it at that.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #93

Those knowledgeable tasers understand it would have worked in a situation uponit7771 Apr 2021 #115

I disagree. But nice attack. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #119

Don't take it personally to proffer a 15-year-old girl would most likely muscle out of a uponit7771 Apr 2021 #121

"Muscle Out" ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #143

There must be so many police trainers and their training videos Beringia Apr 2021 #96

I know law enforcement who say yes the taser would haveMost likely stopped at 15- uponit7771 Apr 2021 #101

Seeing a lot of BS. RegularJam Apr 2021 #102

RIGHT !!! The likelihood it would have been a clean stab is low but the likelihood uponit7771 Apr 2021 #108

Well, hell. Even the odds of surviving a gun shot are pretty good kcr Apr 2021 #111

We agree one gunshot but not five times in a chest to a kid, The point of the OP is black people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #112

I meant if the girl had a gun vs a knife kcr Apr 2021 #116

Think about grabbing a night stick instead of a gun. RegularJam Apr 2021 #118

Even this 👆 !! It look like there are multitude of ways besides bullets to end this uponit7771 Apr 2021 #120

yeah, right number 22 harumph Apr 2021 #148

Tasers don't always stop someone. LisaL Apr 2021 #139

Neither do bullets seeing he had to pump 5 of them into a 15 yr old girls chest. Point being uponit7771 Apr 2021 #142

Good report on the effectiveness of Taser in the field hardluck Apr 2021 #145

Maddow outlined exactly my point in the OP, its good her story line goes along what I'm claimng uponit7771 Apr 2021 #151

ID Required DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2021 #150