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muriel_volestrangler

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19. In your opinion, what are the chances of the trial of Trump for election subversion concluding before the election?
Sat Apr 6, 2024, 12:04 PM
Apr 6

And if you think they're significant, please give some reasons. The case for it being delayed:

Early October: Verdict.

This is the outlook if everything breaks Smith’s way. But a thousand things could throw it off. The Supreme Court might not rule until the very end of its current term, which will carry into late June or early July. The justices might not issue a final ruling at all and could instead send the case back down to the trial court to determine whether Trump acted within the scope of his job as president. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan might decline to set a trial date that would overlap the final stages of the general-election campaign and culminate in a verdict potentially within weeks of the election. Trump’s other federal case, the Mar-A-Lago classified-documents matter, could be pushed back from its current late-May trial date to July or August, which would effectively block the election-subversion case altogether.
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Let’s be clear here: On the whole, this case is proceeding on a normal (or, if anything, expedited) timeline. Smith filed his indictment in August 2023, and it’s exceedingly rare for a federal indictment of this scope and complexity — with discovery including over 13 million pages of documents and thousands of hours of video — to get to trial in less than a year and a half. And it’s fast, if anything, for the Court to grant certiorari within three weeks of the filing of a petition and then to hear oral arguments less than two months later. CNN’s Supreme Court expert, Joan Biskupic, notes that “overall, the timetable is fast compared to the regular calendar for high-court briefing.” If there were no election around the corner, nobody would raise an eyebrow at the pace of this case or the Court’s decision to take it. Certainly, the Court has declined to expedite the case to Smith’s liking, but that’s not the same as delaying it.
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So who gets the blame here if the trial slips past the election? Trump’s the defendant — the one whose personal liberty is at stake and who might die behind bars if he loses — and he is absolutely entitled to defend himself zealously. Any marginally competent defense lawyer would raise the immunity argument and aim to get the trial moved until after the election. This isn’t about lying down to appease the political wishes of some broad swath of the general populace; this is blood sport with Trump’s hide on the line, and this is how the game is played. If you want to cast blame, look across the courtroom at the Justice Department. They’re the ones who controlled the timeline yet dithered away more than two and a half years before indicting, leaving virtually no margin for error to get the case tried before November 2024.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/why-supreme-court-ignored-jack-smith-trump-prosecution-timeline.html

Excellent article. The last two lines are certainly sobering. Lonestarblue Apr 6 #1
If it weren't for the J6 committee gab13by13 Apr 6 #3
It was as much about embarrassing DOJ for lack of effort as it was exposing the coup plot. paleotn Apr 6 #5
And regarding the classified documents case... Wuddles440 Apr 6 #9
The crimes he was charged with happened in Florida not D.C. former9thward Apr 6 #25
Like I stated... Wuddles440 Apr 6 #30
No, not the crimes he is charged with. former9thward Apr 6 #39
No,... Wuddles440 Apr 7 #42
No, he was not charged with that. former9thward Apr 7 #43
You are truly missing the point... Wuddles440 Apr 7 #44
You nail it republianmushroom Apr 6 #17
The best analogy from the article Doc Sportello Apr 6 #2
This !! FailureToCommunicate Apr 6 #7
Gee, gab, you could've written this article Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #4
And his cheerleaders keep on cheering Orrex Apr 6 #10
You are mistaken Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #12
In your opinion, what are the chances of the trial of Trump for election subversion concluding before the election? muriel_volestrangler Apr 6 #19
So many variables make it difficult to predict Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #20
So you agree there is a very significant chance the trial will not be over before the election muriel_volestrangler Apr 6 #21
Yes, it is quite possible the trial won't be finished before the election Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #23
I hope your optimism about Trump supporters mending their ways becomes true muriel_volestrangler Apr 6 #24
You're hanging a lot of weight on that word "required" Silent3 Apr 6 #27
Accepting what we can't change, changing what we can, and knowing the difference between the two Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #31
Annoying, condescending comments like that... Silent3 Apr 6 #33
I can't admit what I don't agree with Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #35
Excellent post. Orrex Apr 6 #41
Yeah, every single one of his cheerleaders says exactly that Orrex Apr 6 #40
Yup republianmushroom Apr 6 #18
I'm with you MorbidButterflyTat Apr 6 #37
Quoting Republicans to attack the Biden Administration? AZSkiffyGeek Apr 6 #29
No kidding MorbidButterflyTat Apr 6 #36
Justice delayed... orthoclad Apr 6 #6
Excellent post & analogy! CrispyQ Apr 6 #28
Gee MorbidButterflyTat Apr 6 #38
Let me take a look gab13by13 Apr 6 #8
I was censored here by comparing garland with Neville triron Apr 6 #16
Garland is weak and may have allowed the destruction of democracy. The courts did NOT hold. onecaliberal Apr 6 #11
Garland to me seems to be a legal academia type with little critical NoMoreRepugs Apr 6 #13
Mildred Gillars really played up the fall of France on Radio RRG Torchlight Apr 6 #14
Submission Wild blueberry Apr 6 #15
How many people complaining continually about Garland's performance have contacted the White House... brooklynite Apr 6 #22
That would indeed be the action consistent with the belief. Fiendish Thingy Apr 6 #32
I'm sure hoping Joe replaces Garland after he wins the next election. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if he did it sooner. flying_wahini Apr 6 #26
Weird choice for topic MorbidButterflyTat Apr 6 #34
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