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lindysalsagal

(20,967 posts) Fri May 3, 2024, 09:30 AM May 3

MSNBC just said 40% of arrested Uni "protesters" weren't even students [View all]

As I suspected. Many students were sincerely trying to support innocents in Gaza. But nefarious outsiders quickly used them for political gain.

I've attended protests for years. I always find a way out when it gets ugly. Thankfully, the vast majority of police have protected us and our right to assemble.

But the police weren't allowed on these campuses and so couldn't keep it peaceful. The outsiders took advantage of that.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

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MSNBC just said 40% of arrested Uni "protesters" weren't even students [View all] lindysalsagal May 3 OP

60 percent were which is a pretty healthy majority of protesters. jimfields33 May 3 #1

Not if the 60% were "poor lost sheep" being used by committed instigators. gulliver May 3 #28

The students were happy to have the outside support ripcord May 3 #2

The student protestors I saw interviewed were clear the racism wasn't their message. Cuthbert Allgood May 3 #8

People with morals would have walked away from overt anti-semitism ripcord May 3 #11

So the easiest way to shut down a protest Cuthbert Allgood May 3 #21

Like I said it comes down to morals ripcord May 3 #24

We've had this conversation before. IT IS NOT ANTI-SEMETIC TO PROTEST THE POLITICAL POLICIES OF TeamProg May 3 #39

But there was anti-semitism coming from the protests ripcord May 3 #40

That's not how honor works. You stay and go forward with your own voice. Racists be damned. TeamProg May 3 #44

Most people would object to anti-semitism ripcord May 3 #48

People choose what they choose to see. TeamProg May 3 #58

" I did see students engage in anti-semitism though." do tell ProfessorPlum May 3 #99

This is not going well. History will not be kind to Israel. That history is in making right now in the global media, TeamProg May 3 #41

So Israel's behavior made these people anti-semitic? ripcord May 3 #45

After this invasion cools down enough for the facts to come out, I think it will be evident that the people of Gaza and TeamProg May 3 #54

It's NOT "Genocide" and Fuck those fucking Protestes that are Scremain g"Genocide Joe".. Cha May 3 #95

It is Netanyahu's genocide, or as U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders called it, "ethnic cleansing", not Joe Biden's. The TeamProg May 3 #100

Fuck the "Genocide Joe" Screamers.. Assholes Are Lying. Cha May 3 #101

I'm afraid that's a distinct possibility, snot May 3 #86

Could you clarify, it seems sarisataka May 3 #89

Nope; sorry if I gave that impression. snot May 3 #90

Yep, and there's no turning back for Israel now... Think. Again. May 3 #56

When they heard the vast amount of antisemitic rhetoric, they all at least should have booed loudly. jimfields33 May 3 #61

How do you know the students were happy? live love laugh May 3 #37

None of them reported these people and their behavior ripcord May 3 #42

Watching the UCLA protest on local news the other night FHRRK May 3 #62

So you have no problem with the protester blocking Jewish students? ripcord May 3 #65

Ok you opened yourself up FHRRK May 3 #70

So if you don't support the protesters you support genocide? ripcord May 3 #72

Again FHRRK May 3 #80

I guess it was someone else who asked ripcord May 3 #82

I thought and posted that once the protest got more militant that it would be at least 1/3 not college affiliate JT45242 May 3 #3

What difference does that make other than feeding conspiracy theories? underpants May 3 #4

It makes a whole hell of a lot of difference. Think about it. See my post below. hlthe2b May 3 #6

A handful have absolutely excoriated those who suggest that there might be outsiders fomenting hlthe2b May 3 #5

And RWers claim Antifa was behind J6 Sympthsical May 3 #15

There is intense proof about Jan6. It remains to be seen about these scores of university protests. hlthe2b May 3 #18

There's video for days Sympthsical May 3 #22

Great post! Thank you. TheProle May 3 #83

so what? Voltaire2 May 3 #7

Of course not - these protests are being organized by outside agitators FakeNoose May 3 #9

"outside agitators" obamanut2012 May 3 #26

For those of us who remember other times, it is indeed a cringe-worthy phrase Hekate May 3 #75

Yeah I find the outsiders part very interesting. lark May 3 #10

The tiki torch crowd, no doubt Mysterian May 3 #12

Unsurprising. (nt) Paladin May 3 #13

The police aren't students either. Ping Tung May 3 #14

Canard? Hardly when spewing hate, death, rape, genocide getagrip_already May 3 #17

I call them idiots shooting their mouths off for attention Ping Tung May 3 #23

Peaceful? Hardly getagrip_already May 3 #27

Were the cops being peaceful when arresting protesters? Will most of those go on trial? Ping Tung May 3 #34

I think this is a nonsensoical argument. Happy Hoosier May 3 #60

Agreed Rebl2 May 3 #68

Correciton: The protesters are trying to stop the slaughter of civilians in Gaza. Ping Tung May 3 #69

With all due respect... Happy Hoosier May 3 #73

I hope both Hamas and Israel come to an acceptable cease fire agreement and long term armistice. Ping Tung May 3 #79

Good for you. I hope you'll enjoy the second Trump Presidency. Happy Hoosier May 3 #81

I'm voting for Biden and I believe most of the protesters will also. Ping Tung May 3 #84

If you think this isn't causing damage.... Happy Hoosier May 3 #88

Do you think that Biden will win? Ping Tung May 3 #93

"police weren't allowed on these campuses and so couldn't keep it peaceful" sarisataka May 3 #16

I've seen a lot of dialogue on X/Blue Sky/Threads from pro-protester accounts... AZSkiffyGeek May 3 #35

It feels like a bad comedy routine at this point Sympthsical May 3 #47

It reminds me of the old cartoons sarisataka May 3 #59

How old was Abbie Hoffman in 1968? Prairie Gates May 3 #19

He was born on November 30th, 1936. patphil May 3 #30

. kch22 May 3 #36

As far as... quickesst May 3 #20

"Outside agitators," really? Jirel May 3 #49

"The students know who is who" -- I doubt it. They don't have the experience, yet... Hekate May 3 #78

Yeah, right quickesst May 3 #97

"outside agitators" -- It is shocking to see DUers use this phrase obamanut2012 May 3 #53

Its lost its shock value. Voltaire2 May 3 #71

What is shocking quickesst May 3 #98

Calling 40% of them nefarious outsiders using them for political gain is a pretty broad brush GregariousGroundhog May 3 #25

The outsider Iago hypothesis looks strong when we consider... gulliver May 3 #29

Has any info come in yet about these outsiders, whether they have any characteristics in common? TheRickles May 3 #31

Yes, most were other local students at other NY univesrities and colleges obamanut2012 May 3 #51

Thanks, good to know. And it figures, unfortunately. TheRickles May 3 #77

The same thing happened during the Vietnam war. grumpyduck May 3 #32

It turns out most of the other 40% were actually from other related universities Blue_Adept May 3 #33

It is so confusing- they are outsiders, no they are students, sarisataka May 3 #38

Some police forces like to use the kettling approach IronLionZion May 3 #50

Did you reply to the correct post? sarisataka May 3 #52

There are people in the area with varying agendas IronLionZion May 3 #55

Well that's comparing apple to coconuts sarisataka May 3 #57

It's interesting how that "11 people at a table with 1 Nazi equals 12 Nazis" meme AZSkiffyGeek May 3 #64

TY for that.. I wish I had the original link so I can pass it on. Cha May 3 #96

Oh FFS. Jirel May 3 #43

The campus was closed to outsiders at the time. Police were checking ID cards. LeftInTX May 3 #91

I participate in the big marches with permits and sitting US Senators IronLionZion May 3 #46

Yeah, that's about it for me. LeftInTX May 3 #92

Not surprised. It was 80% non-student/faculty at the ASU encampment in Tempe, AZ AnrothElf May 3 #63

But just above outsiders were deemed "mythical" sarisataka May 3 #67

When I saw footage of a "student" banging a metal bowl and shrieking "WE ARE HAMAS!" AnrothElf May 3 #74

This JustAnotherGen May 3 #104

Been saying that Rebl2 May 3 #66

So what???? marble falls May 3 #76

What was MSNBC's source for that info? snot May 3 #85

It's perhaps worth mentioning, snot May 3 #87

"Not students" drmeow May 3 #94

I'm not sure why anyone assumes that an American protestor can't protest on a college campus. Bucky May 3 #102

The only way student lead protests can be successful Voltaire2 May 3 #103