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wnylib

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39. I can't read Netanyahu's mind on how he acted with Hamas
Sat May 4, 2024, 11:48 AM
May 4

for so long, but it looks like he was manipulating them because he wanted to reduce the Palestinian Authority's power. My guess is that he did not want the PA to gain enough strength to establish a Palestinian state. Bibi is a RWer with a coalition even farther to the right. They are obstacles to a Palestinian state. I have no respect for him.

I support a state for Palestinians. But the terrorist extremists like Hamas and Hezbollah do not want a two state solution for peace. They want one nation for themselves without the existence of Israel.

The chronic wars and attacks by terrorists against Israel since Israel's recognition as a state has resulted in Israel's increased military build up and security restrictions. It feeds hostility toward Palestinians from RW Israeli politicians so that the extreme right in Israel and the Palestinian terrorists are in the forefront of events, pushing out the chances of moderates from both sides negotiating a sustainable peace.

Some of the 10/7 victims were people who had been peace activists prior to the attacks. I watched an interview with one of the Israeli survivors who had been an activist for Palestinian rights. She said that she was rethinking her views on whether peace was even possible. People who use terrorism and hostages as a "negotiation" only create more hostility among their targeted people. Look at how most Americans reacted to 9/11 by rallying behind Bush's RW government.

IMO, Israel needs better leadership than Netanyahu and his hard right coalition. Palestinians need moderate leadership. Biden has tried to encourage the PA as a more moderate, or less extremist representative government for Palestinians toward peace and their own state. Iran (and possibly Russia) do not want that, just as they opposed Biden's attempts to broker agreements between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Stirring up dissent in the US through divisive college demonstrations is one way to disrupt peace progress. Those demonstrations are not spontaneous reactions by students to the Israel-Hamas war. They are promoted and backed by Palestinian organizations that want Biden's peace efforts to fail. Some of those organizations have a layered network of connections to Hamas and similar groups.
Most of the students are motivated by genuine concern for the people in Gaza. But they have little or no information on the complexity of parties and issues in the background.

Citizens want peace: Governments want wars. LakeArenal May 3 #1
Oh, hell yes to the thousandth rec! slightlv May 3 #16
I'm ready for Dark Brandon on Isreali policy. OAITW r.2.0 May 3 #2
Supposedly, Bibi has been subjected to a lot Dark Brandon recently. paleotn May 3 #8
Any chance we could get them to join DU? (nt) Duncan Grant May 3 #3
TY, LMPV! Cha May 3 #4
To the curb, kick him, quick. Then try his corrupt behind. brush May 3 #5
K&R BootinUp May 3 #6
Good Bibi has got to go.... paleotn May 3 #7
Part of the new Axis of Evil, slightlv May 3 #17
💯💯💯 HandmaidsTaleUntold May 3 #9
Bibi the Butcher is doing more to stoke antisemitism around the world than anyone not named Trump. LeftyLucie May 3 #10
Yes, and welcome, LeftyLucie! babylonsister May 3 #13
One more time, it's not anti-semitism! It's the policies of Israel. TeamProg May 3 #15
How is Israel gonna prevent "horrible videos of buildings falling down"? LeftInTX May 3 #11
He looks at everything from an autocratic lense Cosmocat May 4 #41
Plenty of DUers were "Bibi for prison" until October 7 IronLionZion May 3 #12
I was always againstBibi Mossfern May 4 #46
Better late than never. I look forward to the day when fellow DU'ers who voiced a need for this TeamProg May 3 #14
No one. sheshe2 May 3 #20
The need to wipe out 'Hamas who hide and work among the population' TeamProg May 4 #25
And clearly, we can all see that it is a massacre. How about the bombing of Gaza's resident's homes TeamProg May 4 #26
Thank you sheshe2 Mossfern May 4 #47
Not a new development. People were protesting him before 10/7. wnylib May 3 #23
And yet, it's documented at the Times Of Israel that Bibi had been supporting HAMAS over Abbas for TeamProg May 4 #24
Of course, the media won't mention that tornado34jh May 4 #31
Yep, please check out the link provided in the comment above. TeamProg May 4 #32
The monster he created comes back to bite him tornado34jh May 4 #34
I can't read Netanyahu's mind on how he acted with Hamas wnylib May 4 #39
Please read the link above. nt TeamProg May 4 #40
And most of those people probably do not accuse those who oppose DemocraticPatriot May 3 #18
Almost! It's way too early to say that Netanyahu is doing the right thing TeamProg May 4 #27
Thanks for this. ShazzieB May 3 #19
I have been critical of Netanyahu and his government since the beginning tornado34jh May 3 #21
I've often said iemanja May 3 #22
It's pretty clear to me that the only people who support.... Think. Again. May 4 #28
TY for this, LMPV Hekate May 4 #29
Wow, the instant backtracking and goalpost moving is dizzying. TeamProg May 4 #30
Last night, I talked to the friend of the family of one of the hostages. shrike3 May 4 #33
I have never, ever, ever supported Bibi or his government/policies Raftergirl May 4 #35
Like Trump, Netanyahu belongs in prison. dalton99a May 4 #36
When's the next election in Israel? Elessar Zappa May 4 #37
I think it is October 2026 unless something changes tornado34jh May 4 #38
TFG will bring back the Muslim ban, give Bibi free reign to bomb and destroy Gaza and expel Palestinians from Gaza LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #42
K&R MustLoveBeagles May 4 #43
There is a potential cease fire deal that Bibi may sabotage and the protestors are our in force LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #44
Netanyahu is not popular except among the extreme right. Elessar Zappa May 4 #45
Israelis are protesting for Ceasefire, the return of their loved ones and for Netanyahu to step down. LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #48
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