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Hekate

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56. 🔥 Links here. It's been around since the Apprentice. My comment upfront: Mental health of a POTUS/the Dark Triad...
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:45 PM
May 4

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🌸The knowledge of his condition has been available since The Apprentice. My comment upfront: the concern is Mental health of a POTUS and the Dark Triad of psychopathy.

His behavior around his bowel incontinence is not one of self-care or any kind of adult modesty — instead it ranges from apparent unawareness to outright aggression, which are traits of infancy and toddlerhood. Anyone who has potty-trained toddlers knows this behavior — and normal people outgrow it.

The real issue is his mental health, which now includes dementia — and imperils all of us. Psychiatrists & psychologists have been warning anyone who would listen for many years. In his case, his behavior around his bowel incontinence is but one manifestation, shown in his attitude toward others.

You and other DUers are dealing with health challenges as best you can. The rest of us are dealing with a would-be dictator who has convinced enough followers that he is a demi-god and enough oligarchs that it is to their advantage to back him, that he may well become that dictator.

Which is to say — it isn’t about you, it’s about bringing down the demi-god and dictator.
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The term “Dark Triad” refers to a trio of negative personality traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy—which share some common malevolent features. The construct was coined by researchers Delroy L. Paulhus and Kevin M.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dark-triad#

Noel Casler of The Apprentice:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats_going_on_with_trump_and_diaperssmells/

Answer: The comic Noel Casler worked on Celebrity Apprentice for six seasons. Unlike his colleagues, Casler thwarted his nondisclosure agreement, enabling him to tell us what he witnessed over his time working on set in close proximity to Trump:

He's [Trump] incontinent from all the speed, all the Adderall he does, the cocaine that he has done for decades. All that stuff has a laxative effect on your bowels and his are uncontrollable.
Casler said that Trump has been wearing 'diapers since probably the 90s'. Adding that they often had to stop the show in order for Trump to change his diaper, Casler said that Keith Schiller's job was to take Trump offset and wipe him down. "Our nickname for Keith was wet wipes."
Casler added that Trump does it and he almost sits there unaware of it, and one time he saw Ivanka have to kind of go whisper in his ear and then Keith came and took him offstage.
Trump not cleaning himself when changing out Depends, it is because he wears a hard plastic girdle and he doesn't have the freedom of movement. It's why you see him turn his body from the waist so strangely when standing.
He would soil himself often after flying into a rage and cursing out the Script Dept because he couldn’t read a word. One time there was the word 'arbitrage' on a cue card and he freaked out and started screaming that the script department was setting him up then very loudly evacuated his bowels and you could smell it.
I should also mention that Casler originally came out about this in 2019 (around the start of the pandemic), but the story was mostly buried. This discourse was reignited by a recent tweet from former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger:

“I’m genuinely surprised how people close to Trump haven’t talked about the odor. It’s truly something to behold. Wear a mask if you can.”

Google 'noel casler trump' and you will find even more Casler interviews on YouTube. There are too many to post here.
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To prove the audio isn't doctored I'm also linking the full press conference from CSPAN's view and the same conference from PBS's view.

(End Reddit quote — go there for live links)

What about people like me? True Dough May 4 #1
😉🙃 Traildogbob May 4 #27
I hate those anti-criminites lame54 May 4 #60
Hardly equivalent.. whathehell May 4 #74
I will also defend True Dough May 4 #75
Absolutely, and DUers evidently think they are so clever in using the 5th grade slurs in referring to Trump. elocs May 4 #100
Trump is the ugliest word I know PJMcK May 4 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard May 4 #113
Nailed it mate! arthritisR_US May 5 #124
the name "Trump" should be like the name "Quisling." cab67 May 5 #143
It could be it's the only level he understands and gets to him arthritisR_US May 5 #123
Thank you. I agree leftieNanner May 4 #2
Yes and your husband isn't a sociopathic narcissist either. The arthritisR_US May 5 #128
Good point. Nt leftieNanner May 5 #138
As a professional RN FarPoint May 4 #3
Donald Trump claims to be a perfect, healthy, beautiful specimen without medical or age-related issues. dalton99a May 4 #4
Who says he wears them? Where's the link? jimfields33 May 4 #13
He also wears shoe lifts, FYI. Kingofalldems May 4 #19
I'm not obsessed enough to care about shoe lifts or depends. Who cares. jimfields33 May 4 #81
I am looking forward to reading about a conviction and or his obituary BlueKota May 4 #82
You totally missed their point, sad. arthritisR_US May 5 #125
I so appreciate your comedic stylings! dpibel May 4 #34
... marble falls May 4 #106
See post #56 for many links Hekate May 4 #94
Normally, I would agree that such comments were in poor taste and perhaps inappropriate RAB910 May 4 #5
Thing is, no one actually knows if he's incontinent. Mosby May 4 #12
Drug use and incontinence are not assumed...this a hypocrisy attack on him JT45242 May 4 #20
THIS Hekate May 4 #31
See post #56 for several links Hekate May 4 #95
Yes he deserves PAYBACK KS Toronado May 4 #29
There is that. calimary May 4 #93
But why would we want to be like Trump in any way? Do we think it makes us clever? n/t elocs May 4 #102
Ignoring your enemies weaknesses doesn't make you stronger, arthritisR_US May 5 #129
It goes beyond being in poor taste, though. When someone's medical condition is used as an insult femmedem May 5 #132
I agree with you, albeit Trumps ugliness toward hlthe2b May 4 #6
Agreed. anciano May 4 #7
I hear you, but this is not a propos of nothing. unblock May 4 #8
+1 dalton99a May 4 #17
+100 Hekate May 4 #36
Exactly right FrankBooth May 4 #78
I have to dump an ostomy bag Arne May 4 #9
They are 2 completely different things. MOMFUDSKI May 4 #16
I remember the rainbow of colors from backside Arne May 4 #21
I went through that in 2012 Jilly_in_VA May 4 #107
I have problems because I eat all the wrong food, Arne May 4 #109
But we know why. SarahD May 4 #10
#notallnicknames ShazzieB May 4 #96
True words here. bluestarone May 4 #11
Yup. Ms. Toad May 4 #52
It's another one of those things we would tolerate nowhere else sarisataka May 4 #14
Has Donald actually acknowledged or denied wearing them? keithbvadu2 May 4 #15
I don't think this is about wearing or needing to wear depends. 1WorldHope May 4 #18
It's not the diaper, it's the hypocrisy of the image he tries to maintain. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 4 #22
I have some good news. BannonsLiver May 4 #23
You are brave to share this. murielm99 May 4 #24
Words are like swords whose blades can only cut if a person takes those words in personal offence. cayugafalls May 4 #25
No. Yes. Yes. Yes. GoneOffShore May 4 #26
He's ugly, too. Mr.Bill May 4 #28
Not ugly. Handsome. Very handsome dalton99a May 4 #32
I agree, Archae. Not only is it offfesive to those who must rely on depends, it is sophomoric humor that actually works Martin68 May 4 #30
Trump is the worst school bully you ever knew times a million, because he affects millions. Doodley May 4 #33
Aye. Incontinence is not the issue. Mister Ed May 4 #35
I agree with you. But, as Jordan Klepper said, the sight of DJT shitting his Depends in public, on TV, Rustynaerduwell May 4 #37
I hear you and I can understand. forgotmylogin May 4 #38
Well said! Bayard May 4 #87
It's hell to grow back into them Warpy May 4 #39
I do not think it is the diaper for which he is getting mocked soldierant May 4 #40
as long as ppl use joe's age to make a false equivalence, imma call him diaper don. mopinko May 4 #41
you betcha dembotoz May 4 #42
+1. Physical and mental dalton99a May 4 #44
Only to the extent that it impacts his ability to do his job. meadowlander May 4 #57
no but mopinko May 4 #67
Do you take issue with 'von Shitzenpantz' as a taunt for Trump? Celerity May 4 #43
ridicule is a powerful weapon against tyrants. mopinko May 4 #45
I have never seen a single Trump supporter meadowlander May 4 #98
we'll see nov 5. mopinko May 4 #112
To a degree, yes. Archae May 4 #47
Sadly, there are photos... GiqueCee May 4 #49
doesn't really matter if he does or not, it is effective ridicule of a true POS murderous thug Celerity May 4 #51
I think most of the slurs people use for Trump are pretty sophomoric. TwilightZone May 4 #62
I almost always just call him Trump, but I do use the term 'MAGAts' a lot, and have been scolded for even that here Celerity May 4 #72
Agreed!!!! AverageOldGuy May 4 #46
I wear 'em, too... GiqueCee May 4 #48
Thank you. I made a similar comment earlier - Ms. Toad May 4 #50
Yes. It's almost as if people don't want their words policed by other posters when it comes to Dumpy. BannonsLiver May 4 #55
Nothing to do with Trump. Ms. Toad May 4 #64
It has everything to do with Dump BannonsLiver May 4 #70
No. It has everything to do with not using a group of people as an insult. Ms. Toad May 5 #144
This message was self-deleted by its author Elessar Zappa May 4 #59
Agree. It's ad hominem and childish and says more about the person doing it than Trump. meadowlander May 4 #53
Diaper Don Wifes husband May 4 #54
And the reason it's bad when he does it is because it doesn't just put down the target, meadowlander May 4 #61
Totally agree. It's amazing how obtuse some are on this issue. BannonsLiver May 4 #71
🔥 Links here. It's been around since the Apprentice. My comment upfront: Mental health of a POTUS/the Dark Triad... Hekate May 4 #56
How could you mention Wet Wipes! Arne May 4 #108
It's the Right Wipe for the Right Wing, I guess Hekate May 4 #110
Damn fine post. sheshe2 May 5 #126
TY, She Hekate May 5 #127
+1 dalton99a May 5 #140
Agreed. Chalco May 4 #58
In reality, his 'supporters' are ridiculing Donald. D'ya think the Trumps will thank them for such 'support'? keithbvadu2 May 4 #63
I don't believe in the word police. Elessar Zappa May 4 #65
His magats are wearing shirts that say "real men wear diapers" so I don't think he's even aware of the criticism. Comfortably_Numb May 4 #66
You have a valid point. kingvitamin May 4 #68
Lots of childish nicknames for Trump here TexasDem69 May 4 #69
I will concede that people making fun of medical conditions BlueKota May 4 #88
I think we should not insult newdayneeded May 4 #73
Did You Forget The Sarcasm Tag? ProfessorGAC May 4 #85
I do believe in Jesus, but BlueKota May 4 #91
As a Catholic child, my mom was taught to offer up her suffering to Jesus. Interestingly enough... Hekate May 4 #97
+1 JonAndKatePlusABird May 5 #137
Indeed. Jesus said turn the other cheek and bend over dalton99a May 5 #141
Those comments are being directed at the insurrectionist, racist, bigot, sexist, and no one else JohnSJ May 4 #76
I think of trump as a man baby with full control. pwb May 4 #77
No. It's not about you, and you know it. Pathwalker May 4 #79
My husband, too, due to a prostatectomy and radiation. phylny May 4 #80
Wish you well snowybirdie May 4 #83
I don't take attacks on Trump personally Kaleva May 4 #84
Ah, No! BadGimp May 4 #86
VonSchitzinPants stops lying about Biden I'll stop with diaper comments. NoMoreRepugs May 4 #89
I agree it is a terrible thing to have to wear a colostomy bag, Depends or a catheter, my father doc03 May 4 #90
He thinks he's perfect. Sogo May 4 #92
I wish the people here would stop using the juvenile name-calling in referring to Trump, elocs May 4 #99
It was cute for a minute. But it's gotten just stupid. Srkdqltr May 4 #101
When you could shoot someone and not loose any support... czarjak May 4 #103
I have ulcerative colitis and during flare ups I have had a few accidents and many close calls, but I am not offended Freethinker65 May 4 #104
He needs a diaper on his face. LuvLoogie May 4 #105
Yeah more shit comes out of his mouth than the other end! Initech May 5 #121
Let me just weigh in here...with respect... Trueblue Texan May 4 #114
This thread is interesting birdographer May 4 #115
this is real truepatriot4131 May 4 #116
And while we're at it rambler_american May 4 #117
Strategic Dehumanization Dear_Prudence May 5 #118
Did you publicly ridicule others Pototan May 5 #119
I do not like any of this ha-ha diaper humor. Jack-o-Lantern May 5 #120
I really disagree with you. First he does not have any specific illness that requires Maraya1969 May 5 #122
Maraya, thank you for your post. You are of course correct in your comments. Jack-o-Lantern May 6 #145
everyone is now seems easily triggered by sarcasm and comedy Layzeebeaver May 5 #130
There's a snowflake for every occasion Ponietz May 5 #133
Your sarcasm speaks volumes of your personality. Jack-o-Lantern May 6 #146
War is hell Ponietz May 6 #147
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz May 6 #150
Trump is not the diaper. He is what is in it. twodogsbarking May 5 #131
It's about his addiction that likely causes his loose stools and weak bladder. Oopsie Daisy May 5 #142
It's not about you. Emile May 5 #134
I don't wolfie001 May 5 #135
Would anyone here be okay with racial epithets used against Clarence Thomas or Ben Carson? Shrek May 5 #136
There is one insult that I'm positive Thomas would really object to. Archae May 5 #139
Totally agree. nt Raine May 6 #148
No, Trump gratuitously mocks everyone else for the slightest thing because of his vanity. Hypocrisy. betsuni May 6 #149
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