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SocialDemocrat61

(723 posts) Mon May 6, 2024, 10:35 AM May 6

Michael Moore needs to shut up [View all]

I usually like Moore and agree with what he has to say. But this year the guy has really lost it.

First, he's been running around claiming that President Biden can end the war in Gaza with one phone call. That is complete BS and he knows it.

Now he is encouraging students to not only protest but to storm and take over buildings. That is incredibly irresponsible. I believe in non-violent, lawful protest. Telling students that they should break the law and violently storm privately owned buildings will have both short and long term consequences on their lives.

I'm starting to think that Moore is just getting old and desperately trying to stay relevant.

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Michael Moore needs to shut up [View all] SocialDemocrat61 May 6 OP

Same as usual. betsuni May 6 #1

The US can stop sending weapons. David__77 May 6 #2

Not the topic I was posting about SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #3

Exactly Redleg May 6 #7

Well, these students are young and will have decades to regret their actions elocs May 6 #11

LOL Redleg May 6 #18

Well I'm 72 so you can only imagine the amount of regret I haul around. elocs May 6 #75

Moore is gonna get those kids hurt. Happy Hoosier May 6 #21

It can but it isn't really up to the President Redleg May 6 #6

Congress holds the nation's purse-strings, yup. And the President's job is in large part to spend it... AnrothElf May 7 #91

I did read that the President can suspend the shipments Redleg May 8 #138

Is it reflexive at this point? BannonsLiver May 6 #9

One phone call? Clearly a false claim. stopdiggin May 6 #15

He's old enough to know better Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 7 #90

The President has a hand in what The U.S. does. The President does not control 'other' countries internals. Traurigkeit May 7 #127

Unfortnuately it's not that simple... joshcryer May 6 #25

The war would end pretty quickly after that. erodriguez May 6 #51

Do you think the house, in its present condition, could be talked into doing that? lees1975 May 6 #62

It'd take more than that Algernon Moncrieff May 7 #135

And completely ignore the students who have been looking to graduation ceremonies question everything May 6 #4

Everybody, including myself, is a "armchair POTUS". walkingman May 6 #5

He should have been shut up about 25 years ago. WhiteTara May 6 #8

There is still Jilly_in_VA May 6 #59

I didn't say anyone should shut him up WhiteTara May 6 #61

Look at your header again Jilly_in_VA May 6 #64

oops WhiteTara May 6 #67

Inciting people to commit crimes SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #73

'Should have been shut up' Voltaire2 May 7 #107

I agree LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #115

Post removed Post removed May 7 #124

That didn't take long. GP6971 May 7 #125

Michael Moore has been right on occasion ... stopdiggin May 6 #10

He wants Biden to lose BannonsLiver May 6 #12

The hideous mass genocide of thousands of Palestinian women and children Greybnk48 May 6 #13

True but not the point SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #16

Like what happened to Bill Ayers, & Bernadine Dohrn, who set bombs at the US Capitol and Pentagon? MichMan May 6 #19

So you're saying violence is ok? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #22

Moore argued people have the "right" to take over buildings as long as violence isn't involved, arguing union workers Celerity May 6 #33

Breaking and entering is violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #46

So Don't Blame it on Pres Biden.. That's Assisting Cha May 6 #70

I LOVE Michael Moore! RandiFan1290 May 6 #14

And he helped put George W Bush in the White House SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #17

I'd rather defeat "the right" rather than encourage voters to support third-party candidates * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #37

Like saying the "old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is" betsuni May 6 #80

The extremists on the left hurt Democrat's Sugarcoated May 6 #65

True. But I believe that they know this and simply do not care. For people like Moore * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #68

They want to sit on their high horse SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #72

Michael Moore said that the only Rason Pres Obama will Cha May 6 #69

What a racist thing for MM to say!! It's right up there with the "born in Kenya" birthers! Oopsie Daisy May 7 #100

And the ones who said Obama couldn't put together a sentence without reading from a teleprompter betsuni May 7 #111

Yep well described.. TY! Cha May 7 #132

Just like a lot of others Bmoboy May 6 #20

Do as I do... Dear_Prudence May 6 #23

Love him. Keep talking Michael. Ideas should be heard. Thought should be provoked. Nanjeanne May 6 #24

You approve of violence? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #28

Good grief! Violence. No. First thing - the OP provided no link. OP said that MM encouraged Nanjeanne May 6 #30

He specifically said no violence. Celerity May 6 #34

Gee Shocker! Funny how somehow that was not and still isn't part of the conversation! Nanjeanne May 6 #36

I always do my due diligence with OPs that make claims but give no receipts to back them up. Celerity May 6 #39

Taking over buildings is violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #38

no, no it is not in many cases Celerity May 6 #42

It's Breaking and Entering SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #43

not if they had legal access to the building, they did not have to 'break in' at all Celerity May 6 #45

You're splitting hairs SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #47

No, not splitting hairs. I'm putting paid to the premiss of your OP and subsequent attempts to push its faulty narrative Celerity May 6 #50

No, you're trying to deny the reality that SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #53

I can assure you I am not the one in denial. I also suspect that you did not post a link for your OP as that would Celerity May 6 #56

Breaking and entering is an act of violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #57

Yes, and All of the buildings being taken over were all showing violent acts. It's not credible to Nixie May 7 #128

Explain further. Big Blue Marble May 7 #89

How is it not violence? SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #94

So much hair-splitting going on here, it looks like a beauty parlor's floor. Oopsie Daisy May 6 #41

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #44

I am not a Moore minion. I defy you to find evidence in my 6 years here that remotely shows that. I just think your Celerity May 7 #95

So defensive SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #97

Not defensive at all, just pointing out your petty little slur attempts are as invalid as your OP spin was. Celerity May 7 #98

Pettifog! betsuni May 7 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 7 #136

Thanks again for proving my point SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #103

It's probably not to dig that hole any deeper. Oopsie Daisy May 7 #134

Sounds a bit red-herringish especially after tasking other posters to stay on point. -nt yonder May 6 #48

The point is that Moore is inciting SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #49

Occupying a building isn't violence. Voltaire2 May 7 #109

No it's not SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #114

Civil disobedience requires law breaking. Voltaire2 May 7 #121

And he's inciting people to break the law SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #122

problem is - many of Michael's 'thoughts' - are really pretty crap stopdiggin May 7 #129

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And that's great. Yours is yours. We disagree. But they are still Nanjeanne May 7 #133

Democratic politician's responses to Michael Moore's latest rants are more important than what Moore says Freethinker65 May 6 #26

Inciting people to violence and breaking the law SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #29

I assume Michael Moore is willing to face any consequences for his public rants. Freethinker65 May 6 #32

Exactly how will he face any consequences? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #35

Agreed. Freethinker65 May 6 #60

Trump incited a specific act on a specific day SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #63

Indeed. The GOP, Trump, Qanon, Fox and other RW Maga-types have been arguing that * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #52

Nothing has changed. He's still the bullying slob that he's always been. Oopsie Daisy May 6 #27

MM handing out really bad advice again. Taking over buildings is what the J6'ers did, and are now going to... Tarheel_Dem May 6 #31

there's a huge difference between taking over a building NoRethugFriends May 6 #54

I stand by every word. Please move along & have a great day. Tarheel_Dem May 6 #66

you don't get to order me to move along NoRethugFriends May 6 #74

Bye Felicia! Tarheel_Dem May 7 #137

People with state controlled internal organs (women) can... NNadir May 6 #40

"desperately trying to stay relevant" JustAnotherGen May 6 #55

I urge Michael Moore to "occupy" oasis May 6 #58

What does the phrase "By Any Means Necessary" mean ? MichMan May 6 #71

pretty much what it means when in the mouth of others stopdiggin May 7 #130

Though bashed mercilessly, He was damn sure right about 2016 election. Silent Type May 6 #76

So what? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #77

Mm was dead WRONG about Cha May 6 #78

Folks should have listened in 2016. Silent Type May 6 #79

And what did Mm do to help Hillary & Democracy Cha May 6 #81

Nothing. He tried to warn the Democrats who were opposing Clinton even after primaries Silent Type May 6 #83

Yeah they didn't "listen" Becaues Cha May 6 #84

I think, to be fair, anamnua May 7 #118

And the reason was that Romney had more money. As if money's the most important thing. Doesn't work that way. betsuni May 6 #87

Yes, MM said MR was going to WIN because he had More Money! Such Cha May 6 #88

It's funny when they have more money but deny it and insist it's different anyway because "grassroots" betsuni May 7 #92

lol@grassroots. and the Cha May 7 #93

If they win it's evidence that Americans (including Republican voters) are secretly socialists just waiting betsuni May 7 #96

He was fundamentally wrong about why. Thought it was about economic anxiety and not racism, culture wars. betsuni May 6 #85

thank you. for actually bothering to lay a lot of that garbage stopdiggin May 7 #131

He is seeking relevance mcar May 6 #82

The original "karen" Shellback Squid May 6 #86

He's always with us when we're out of power then turns when we are in power. RandySF May 7 #101

Absolutely perfect statement SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #102

When many on the Left immediately shifted from attacking the Bush administration betsuni May 7 #104

I think some people try to make a fashion statement by voting Green or sitting out a specific election. RandySF May 7 #108

The Romance of the Revolution. betsuni May 7 #112

Michael Moore wanted Tom Hanks as President MistakenLamb May 7 #105

Or Oprah, Sully Sullenberger, Michelle Obama. It was the ONLY way Democrats could win. betsuni May 7 #110

I have liked him generally, but he is saddling the wrong horse here. quaker bill May 7 #106

I never considered Michael Moore to be credible LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #113

Do you think anyone really listens to him? brooklynite May 7 #116

In this case SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #119

Of course they do, he's on TV a lot and claims to be a "progressive." betsuni May 7 #123

Yes, I agree that one phone call could stop the war elias7 May 7 #117

Not what Moore was saying SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #120

"I'm starting to think that Moore is just getting old and desperately trying to stay relevant. " -- So true Traurigkeit May 7 #126