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15. One phone call? Clearly a false claim.

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Mon May 6, 2024, 11:29 AM

May 6

But one that, fittingly, trips easily from the mouth - of one that specializes in hype and inflammatory grandiosity.

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Michael Moore needs to shut up [View all] SocialDemocrat61 May 6 OP

Same as usual. betsuni May 6 #1

The US can stop sending weapons. David__77 May 6 #2

Not the topic I was posting about SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #3

Exactly Redleg May 6 #7

Well, these students are young and will have decades to regret their actions elocs May 6 #11

LOL Redleg May 6 #18

Well I'm 72 so you can only imagine the amount of regret I haul around. elocs May 6 #75

Moore is gonna get those kids hurt. Happy Hoosier May 6 #21

It can but it isn't really up to the President Redleg May 6 #6

Congress holds the nation's purse-strings, yup. And the President's job is in large part to spend it... AnrothElf May 7 #91

I did read that the President can suspend the shipments Redleg May 8 #138

Is it reflexive at this point? BannonsLiver May 6 #9

One phone call? Clearly a false claim. stopdiggin May 6 #15

He's old enough to know better Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 7 #90

The President has a hand in what The U.S. does. The President does not control 'other' countries internals. Traurigkeit May 7 #127

Unfortnuately it's not that simple... joshcryer May 6 #25

The war would end pretty quickly after that. erodriguez May 6 #51

Do you think the house, in its present condition, could be talked into doing that? lees1975 May 6 #62

It'd take more than that Algernon Moncrieff May 7 #135

And completely ignore the students who have been looking to graduation ceremonies question everything May 6 #4

Everybody, including myself, is a "armchair POTUS". walkingman May 6 #5

He should have been shut up about 25 years ago. WhiteTara May 6 #8

There is still Jilly_in_VA May 6 #59

I didn't say anyone should shut him up WhiteTara May 6 #61

Look at your header again Jilly_in_VA May 6 #64

oops WhiteTara May 6 #67

Inciting people to commit crimes SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #73

'Should have been shut up' Voltaire2 May 7 #107

I agree LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #115

Post removed Post removed May 7 #124

That didn't take long. GP6971 May 7 #125

Michael Moore has been right on occasion ... stopdiggin May 6 #10

He wants Biden to lose BannonsLiver May 6 #12

The hideous mass genocide of thousands of Palestinian women and children Greybnk48 May 6 #13

True but not the point SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #16

Like what happened to Bill Ayers, & Bernadine Dohrn, who set bombs at the US Capitol and Pentagon? MichMan May 6 #19

So you're saying violence is ok? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #22

Moore argued people have the "right" to take over buildings as long as violence isn't involved, arguing union workers Celerity May 6 #33

Breaking and entering is violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #46

So Don't Blame it on Pres Biden.. That's Assisting Cha May 6 #70

I LOVE Michael Moore! RandiFan1290 May 6 #14

And he helped put George W Bush in the White House SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #17

I'd rather defeat "the right" rather than encourage voters to support third-party candidates * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #37

Like saying the "old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is" betsuni May 6 #80

The extremists on the left hurt Democrat's Sugarcoated May 6 #65

True. But I believe that they know this and simply do not care. For people like Moore * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #68

They want to sit on their high horse SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #72

Michael Moore said that the only Rason Pres Obama will Cha May 6 #69

What a racist thing for MM to say!! It's right up there with the "born in Kenya" birthers! Oopsie Daisy May 7 #100

And the ones who said Obama couldn't put together a sentence without reading from a teleprompter betsuni May 7 #111

Yep well described.. TY! Cha May 7 #132

Just like a lot of others Bmoboy May 6 #20

Do as I do... Dear_Prudence May 6 #23

Love him. Keep talking Michael. Ideas should be heard. Thought should be provoked. Nanjeanne May 6 #24

You approve of violence? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #28

Good grief! Violence. No. First thing - the OP provided no link. OP said that MM encouraged Nanjeanne May 6 #30

He specifically said no violence. Celerity May 6 #34

Gee Shocker! Funny how somehow that was not and still isn't part of the conversation! Nanjeanne May 6 #36

I always do my due diligence with OPs that make claims but give no receipts to back them up. Celerity May 6 #39

Taking over buildings is violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #38

no, no it is not in many cases Celerity May 6 #42

It's Breaking and Entering SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #43

not if they had legal access to the building, they did not have to 'break in' at all Celerity May 6 #45

You're splitting hairs SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #47

No, not splitting hairs. I'm putting paid to the premiss of your OP and subsequent attempts to push its faulty narrative Celerity May 6 #50

No, you're trying to deny the reality that SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #53

I can assure you I am not the one in denial. I also suspect that you did not post a link for your OP as that would Celerity May 6 #56

Breaking and entering is an act of violence SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #57

Yes, and All of the buildings being taken over were all showing violent acts. It's not credible to Nixie May 7 #128

Explain further. Big Blue Marble May 7 #89

How is it not violence? SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #94

So much hair-splitting going on here, it looks like a beauty parlor's floor. Oopsie Daisy May 6 #41

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #44

I am not a Moore minion. I defy you to find evidence in my 6 years here that remotely shows that. I just think your Celerity May 7 #95

So defensive SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #97

Not defensive at all, just pointing out your petty little slur attempts are as invalid as your OP spin was. Celerity May 7 #98

Pettifog! betsuni May 7 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 7 #136

Thanks again for proving my point SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #103

It's probably not to dig that hole any deeper. Oopsie Daisy May 7 #134

Sounds a bit red-herringish especially after tasking other posters to stay on point. -nt yonder May 6 #48

The point is that Moore is inciting SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #49

Occupying a building isn't violence. Voltaire2 May 7 #109

No it's not SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #114

Civil disobedience requires law breaking. Voltaire2 May 7 #121

And he's inciting people to break the law SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #122

problem is - many of Michael's 'thoughts' - are really pretty crap stopdiggin May 7 #129

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And that's great. Yours is yours. We disagree. But they are still Nanjeanne May 7 #133

Democratic politician's responses to Michael Moore's latest rants are more important than what Moore says Freethinker65 May 6 #26

Inciting people to violence and breaking the law SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #29

I assume Michael Moore is willing to face any consequences for his public rants. Freethinker65 May 6 #32

Exactly how will he face any consequences? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #35

Agreed. Freethinker65 May 6 #60

Trump incited a specific act on a specific day SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #63

Indeed. The GOP, Trump, Qanon, Fox and other RW Maga-types have been arguing that * Oopsie Daisy May 6 #52

Nothing has changed. He's still the bullying slob that he's always been. Oopsie Daisy May 6 #27

MM handing out really bad advice again. Taking over buildings is what the J6'ers did, and are now going to... Tarheel_Dem May 6 #31

there's a huge difference between taking over a building NoRethugFriends May 6 #54

I stand by every word. Please move along & have a great day. Tarheel_Dem May 6 #66

you don't get to order me to move along NoRethugFriends May 6 #74

Bye Felicia! Tarheel_Dem May 7 #137

People with state controlled internal organs (women) can... NNadir May 6 #40

"desperately trying to stay relevant" JustAnotherGen May 6 #55

I urge Michael Moore to "occupy" oasis May 6 #58

What does the phrase "By Any Means Necessary" mean ? MichMan May 6 #71

pretty much what it means when in the mouth of others stopdiggin May 7 #130

Though bashed mercilessly, He was damn sure right about 2016 election. Silent Type May 6 #76

So what? SocialDemocrat61 May 6 #77

Mm was dead WRONG about Cha May 6 #78

Folks should have listened in 2016. Silent Type May 6 #79

And what did Mm do to help Hillary & Democracy Cha May 6 #81

Nothing. He tried to warn the Democrats who were opposing Clinton even after primaries Silent Type May 6 #83

Yeah they didn't "listen" Becaues Cha May 6 #84

I think, to be fair, anamnua May 7 #118

And the reason was that Romney had more money. As if money's the most important thing. Doesn't work that way. betsuni May 6 #87

Yes, MM said MR was going to WIN because he had More Money! Such Cha May 6 #88

It's funny when they have more money but deny it and insist it's different anyway because "grassroots" betsuni May 7 #92

lol@grassroots. and the Cha May 7 #93

If they win it's evidence that Americans (including Republican voters) are secretly socialists just waiting betsuni May 7 #96

He was fundamentally wrong about why. Thought it was about economic anxiety and not racism, culture wars. betsuni May 6 #85

thank you. for actually bothering to lay a lot of that garbage stopdiggin May 7 #131

He is seeking relevance mcar May 6 #82

The original "karen" Shellback Squid May 6 #86

He's always with us when we're out of power then turns when we are in power. RandySF May 7 #101

Absolutely perfect statement SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #102

When many on the Left immediately shifted from attacking the Bush administration betsuni May 7 #104

I think some people try to make a fashion statement by voting Green or sitting out a specific election. RandySF May 7 #108

The Romance of the Revolution. betsuni May 7 #112

Michael Moore wanted Tom Hanks as President MistakenLamb May 7 #105

Or Oprah, Sully Sullenberger, Michelle Obama. It was the ONLY way Democrats could win. betsuni May 7 #110

I have liked him generally, but he is saddling the wrong horse here. quaker bill May 7 #106

I never considered Michael Moore to be credible LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #113

Do you think anyone really listens to him? brooklynite May 7 #116

In this case SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #119

Of course they do, he's on TV a lot and claims to be a "progressive." betsuni May 7 #123

Yes, I agree that one phone call could stop the war elias7 May 7 #117

Not what Moore was saying SocialDemocrat61 May 7 #120

"I'm starting to think that Moore is just getting old and desperately trying to stay relevant. " -- So true Traurigkeit May 7 #126