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skepticscott

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30. Nor do humanists

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:25 PM

Dec 2012

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offer up the kind of "comfort" that religions offer, for people who desperately need to be told that their child "is in a better place" or "has been called by Jesus" or that they will "see them again in heaven". Sorry, but humanism and atheism are not that comforting...they are not about delusion and wishful thinking, but about truth and reason, regardless of whether it makes you feel all fuzzy-wuzzy.

Not that comfort can't be offered to grieving people without injecting religion and Jeebus-talk. Much of the grief counseling that went on was entirely secular, but those people had no other agenda of self-promotion, and didn't wear the fancy drapes.

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Where Are the Humanists? [View all] cbayer Dec 2012 OP

to be fair, it is the religionists' god(s) that allowed those kids to be killed so the humanists msongs Dec 2012 #1

What a load. But, hey, thanks for stopping in again. cbayer Dec 2012 #2

"... for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #3

What does that have to do with the article? cbayer Dec 2012 #5

Well, one group is compelled to publicly show off their religiosity for self-edification NoOneMan Dec 2012 #7

That's not what the article is about at all, but thanks for stopping by. cbayer Dec 2012 #8

Its precisely what its about, but its framing the issue in a different manner NoOneMan Dec 2012 #9

It's really not. It's about secular/humanist groups and organizations cbayer Dec 2012 #12

This article assumes their presence and actions is in fact comforting... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #13

Ok, I am beginning to get a better understanding of your POV and position cbayer Dec 2012 #14

Both views are without basis really NoOneMan Dec 2012 #15

Sling feces at who? He and other humanist leaders are encouraging more cbayer Dec 2012 #16

"This, IMHO, is a very good thing" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #17

Not what I said at all. Listen carefully. cbayer Dec 2012 #18

And in the context of this specific event... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #19

If there were not value, people would not engage or attend. cbayer Dec 2012 #20

People use to practice blood letting NoOneMan Dec 2012 #23

What I see are broadbrush smears and assumptions about the role of religion cbayer Dec 2012 #25

Broadbrush smears are possible alternatives to broadbrush praise that this article assumes NoOneMan Dec 2012 #26

"There is nothing inherently, objectively good about chasing ambulances with canned theodicies." Silent3 Dec 2012 #31

I'm a member of the Teaneck Ethical Culture Society that organized the no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #4

Excellent! I have seen an increasing number of these kinds of secular groups cbayer Dec 2012 #6

Really? How would any one know marybourg Dec 2012 #10

There are many large and active humanist organizations, and their numbers are growing. cbayer Dec 2012 #11

There are many large and active scientific organizations skepticscott Dec 2012 #22

More importantly, where were the Furries? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #24

Why do humanists need an organization? So they can not pray marybourg Dec 2012 #27

The groups have formed for a variety of reasons. cbayer Dec 2012 #28

They were there. They just don't need to bring attention and pageantry to it like religious ones do. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #21

The humanists haven't made any grand promises to protect their flocks. They haven't dimbear Dec 2012 #29

Nor do humanists skepticscott Dec 2012 #30

hahahahahah EvilAL Dec 2012 #32