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KoKo

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43. It was disturbing to read they don't want help from other POC or White (Progressives)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)

because those are all tainted as sell outs or something.

I was an activist in late 60's against Vietnam War. Ran into many different groups with different agendas...and there were some who wanted to "break off" and "do their own thing" not trusting anyone. So, this isn't new.

What's sad is that living through what I remember and my experience is-- that those who "broke off" into more violent actions ended up doing stuff that got them in jail or killed. Others not seeing change fast enough became bored or frustrated and dropped out becoming very establishment. But, there are so many positive actions that survive from the 60's we have to hope that "BLM" will reform our our whole Militarized Police and for profit Detention System along with Racial Targeting, Stop & Frisk without Cause and all the other reforms in the legal system that causes hostile Police Actions against POC, Mentally Ill, Homeless and Youth population.

I think this article is a good read for young people who may be looking for a more radical way of supporting a cause they believe in, feeling frustrated with what they view as "Establishment Failures"..but, having been through an era long before now..with much the same kind of language...I'd probably look and read carefully and think hard before I jumped in head first.

Focusing on "Constructive" and NOT "Destructive" Efforts win more people (hearts and minds) to work with one towards a Goal that might achieve progress over outright rage of Shaking Fists and Shouting Down those who could support your efforts and move one's "Agenda for Change" forward in a better more productive way.

But...in the end...Every Generation needs to find their "Own Path" to fight the injustices particular to their Own Time and Life Experiences.... BUT, be aware, that there may be "forces behind the scenes" with an Agenda You Aren't Aware Of that Might Come Back to Bite You on The Neck. Like a Vampire.

So, there's that.

seems unfair to the Panthers--even James Cromwell sorta was one MisterP Aug 2015 #1
Yeah, I caught that about the Panthers too........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #9
The "contingent" strike me as "hipsters" Aerows Aug 2015 #60
They DID..but the Execution of their Ideals caused problems "down the road"... KoKo Aug 2015 #73
So BLM is about black women? Specifically lesbian black women? sufrommich Aug 2015 #2
Amaxibg, isn't it? Gman Aug 2015 #14
Hard to forget this thread, isn't it? emulatorloo Nov 2016 #87
I don't agree with the premise in this piece that the Black Panthers were bad. m-lekktor Aug 2015 #3
I agree. The Panthers started food programs for kids in schools in Oakland. I had the sense they jalan48 Aug 2015 #17
I'm going to reserve comment. I do though want to mention that I hold those at ROF in high regard. n Snotcicles Aug 2015 #4
Keep the struggle going romanic Aug 2015 #5
K&R emsimon33 Aug 2015 #6
It's all about them, BLM is just their vehicle. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #7
Like PUMA ? FreakinDJ Aug 2015 #8
Yup! You said the secret word! JackInGreen Aug 2015 #12
Exactly. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #13
oh no the scary black lesbians JI7 Aug 2015 #10
Evil Power-Hungry Black Lesbians With a Secret Plot to Destroy America!1!!1! emulatorloo Aug 2015 #16
Trifecta! okasha Aug 2015 #20
Yup. Or it could be a reaction to be being called "white supremacist liberals"... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #22
Please explain okasha Aug 2015 #24
Why? I didn't make that comparison. You did. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #26
Your post 22. okasha Aug 2015 #27
You made the comparison. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #40
Your post 22. okasha Aug 2015 #46
Yes, they are 3 lesbians - so what? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #61
Umm... Agschmid Aug 2015 #11
I cannot believe I'm reading any of this on a liberal board Gman Aug 2015 #15
I don't remember much about the Black Panthers, sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #19
Here 840high Aug 2015 #31
Thank you so much sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #34
Here's something I posted on another thread starroute Aug 2015 #44
Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #47
I feel hoodwinked. 840high Aug 2015 #49
"Propaganda" because you dont like it? Can you refute the quotes? 7962 Aug 2015 #38
This explains some posts on DU that had me puzzled and one in particular that A Simple Game Aug 2015 #18
I'm not supportive of the Panther hate Hydra Aug 2015 #21
I would suggest that you read the whole sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #23
It was disturbing to read they don't want help from other POC or White (Progressives) KoKo Aug 2015 #43
I only have one tiny criticism. bvar22 Aug 2015 #63
Yes...I didn't make it clear enough about the good that came out of the 60's Movement... KoKo Aug 2015 #64
An edit is unnecessary. bvar22 Aug 2015 #65
...! Many seem to feel OWS didn't achieve anything... KoKo Aug 2015 #67
WoW DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #25
In her own words: Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #28
I'm glad you posted. Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #32
Well fuck passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #50
That actually adds uite a bit of clarity. Doctor_J Aug 2015 #59
I don't take this as a slur...as you seem to...but, a reality that there are many people today KoKo Aug 2015 #48
I really like and respect ROF zentrum Aug 2015 #29
It's like they decided to embody the entire stereotype that BLM correctly pointed out. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #30
Don't know if you have interest in this...but passing along... KoKo Aug 2015 #53
well this is one big mind-fuck. I have utmost respect for ROF and find this information bbgrunt Aug 2015 #33
I think so. ozone_man Aug 2015 #54
I don't understand the reasoning behind continuing to disrupt Bernie's events HoosierRadical Aug 2015 #35
There are plenty who make a living off of "racial problems". 7962 Aug 2015 #36
The irony is that if there was genuine racial comity and equality the reverend wouldn't exist... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #39
Good Point......and that's why we need to work harder.. KoKo Aug 2015 #55
+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #70
any and all of them may have potential lucrative careers waiting stupidicus Aug 2015 #37
Is BLM the NRA of this election cycle . . . MrModerate Aug 2015 #41
Wow. Now they're going to blame LESBIANS for this? pnwmom Aug 2015 #42
reads from the beginning like a right-wing manifesto bigtree Aug 2015 #45
Passing this along...You might find it interesting, or not..but, worth a read, I think: KoKo Aug 2015 #52
good read, KoKo bigtree Aug 2015 #56
It goes into more. KoKo Aug 2015 #57
what I'm saying is that I'm more inclined to agree with the movement bigtree Aug 2015 #58
Practicallity and Principles of Conduct are STILL IMPORTANT KoKo Aug 2015 #72
Women, Sexuality and the Black Panther Party DhhD Aug 2015 #51
Evidence? jmondine Aug 2015 #62
BLM 'leadership' is doing more damage to their own organization than to Bernie AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #66
Hi!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #75
Thanks and we knew something was very wrong from the beginning. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #68
Advocating xxxxx Power is not a good sign seveneyes Aug 2015 #69
K&R! KoKo Aug 2015 #71
Zombie thread needs kicking! bravenak Oct 2015 #74
Why? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #78
Because people are two faced bravenak Oct 2015 #81
Doesn't seem right to me HassleCat Oct 2015 #76
It's also from months ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #80
It is a history lesson, and a good thing to keep in mind these days emulatorloo Nov 2015 #86
. RandySF Oct 2015 #77
Links don't work stevil Oct 2015 #79
Yes, to their credit, they took it down pretty quickly emulatorloo Nov 2015 #85
I always sort of liked the Black Panthers tularetom Oct 2015 #82
Complete made up paranoid horseshit. portlander23 Oct 2015 #83
Do any of you even know what "centering" means in this context? Zenlitened Oct 2015 #84
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