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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:44 PM
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Some Bush Supporters Say They Anticipate a 'Revolution' (NYT)
Here we go -

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Published: November 4, 2004

ARLINGTON, Va., Nov. 3 - Exulting in their electoral victories, President Bush's conservative supporters immediately turned to staking out mandates for an ambitious agenda of long-cherished goals, including privatizing Social Security, banning same-sex marriage, remaking the Supreme Court and overturning the court's decisions in support of abortion rights.

"Now comes the revolution," Richard Viguerie, the dean of conservative direct mail, told about a dozen fellow movement stalwarts gathered around a television here, tallying up their Senate seats in the earliest hours of the morning. "If you don't implement a conservative agenda now, when do you?"

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Dr. Dobson and several other Christian conservatives said they believed the expanded Republican majority in the Senate and the defeat of the Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle, put them in striking distance of both amending the constitution to ban same-sex marriage and approving the appointment of enough conservative Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe v. Wade and other abortion rights cases.

"I think it is a real possibility," said Senator Sam Brownback, Republican of Kansas, a champion of social conservative causes. In the meantime, he said, he also hoped to pass other measures conservatives had campaigned for this year, including an "Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act" requiring some women seeking abortions to be offered anesthesia for their fetuses.

more at
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/politics/campaign/04conserve.html
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:46 PM
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1. It has begun.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:47 PM
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2. *deep breath*
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cardlaw Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:48 PM
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3. Give anesthesia to a fetus!?!?
WTF!?!?!?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:40 AM
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12. I believe the intent here would be to influence the woman. . .
since the offer of anesthesia for the fetus would lead her to believe the fetus is feeling substantial pain.
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cardlaw Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:54 AM
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14. How well developed
is the nervous system in the first trimester?
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:49 PM
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4. Revolution?
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:51 PM
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5. frightening.. all too real
We need to indict them first..
Damn these zealots think that 23% of the 51% of american's that voted are gonna take over the nation?

Damn.. this is frightening.. WE might have to fight our neigbors !
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:53 PM
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6. There will be a revolution alright...
But I think the biggest backlash will be within the Pug Party itself. The old time Pugs know they fucked up by letting the Chimp win and further dividing the country.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:53 PM
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7. You want a revolution?
You'll get your fucking revolution, but it won't be what you think, red coats!
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:53 PM
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8. They want a revolution? I'll be glad to help them out...
But it won't be what they expected.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:55 PM
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9. No. OUR revolution starts . . . NOW! (to paraphrase Steve Earl)
I'm not taking it. We all shouldn't be allowing this to happen without noisy protest. We have a stacked deck, true enough, but we don't have to roll over and play dead.

Today our revolution started, and they think it's theirs.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:59 PM
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10. These are the dominionists whose poltical philosophy borders on....
...the relgious fringe of lunacy, but they have in fact managed to penetrate and dominate the republican party ever since Ronald Reagan first courted them as the moral majority to help him win his first term in office.

<snip>

The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America

It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.<1> And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.<2> On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church.

Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation.

As Antonin Scalia, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court explained a few months later, the Bible teaches and Christians believe “… that government …derives its moral authority from God. Government is the ‘minister of God’ with powers to ‘revenge,’ to ‘execute wrath,’ including even wrath by the sword…”<3>

<more at link> http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

We can count on witch burnings, the return of the inquisition and expulsions or enslavement of non-believers as the agenda of the religious right is fully implemented during the next four years. These people really believe that the second coming of Christ is at hand and their crusade is to prepare the world for Jesus' return in the very near future.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:59 PM
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11. They said this same crap after Reagan's two elections....
They even called it the "Reagan Revolution". Viguerie has been around
forever.

We didn't disappear then and we're not going to now.

I wish I had a buck for every time these people claimed they were close
to overturning Roe v Wade.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:51 AM
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13. This Bush resister anticipates that the revolution will be skipped
The Bushies will skip the revolution and go directly to the reign of terror.
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