SammyWinstonJack
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:00 AM
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Harry Connick Jr. on 'looting' in NO |
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On MSRNC sTalking head asked Harry about the looting and he said, paraphrasing, that if he were there, he just might steal a plasma tv, said condition were rough for those people down there. He said maybe this would wake people up to the daily suffering of people with basically nothing. I gathered he was speaking of the poverty.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:02 AM
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1. And this guy's father was a D.A. If he has compassion for the vicitims |
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then I think those of us who don't should reconsider our attitudes.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:04 AM
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2. I agree, what would we do if faced with NO HOPE |
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and NO HELP!
Bush said, "no tolerance for looters." He said that AFTER Diane Sawyer mentioned some did not have food and water!
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:05 AM
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4. That's rich coming from Jr. nt |
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:10 AM
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5. Reminds me of after 9/11 when he asked the people to keep |
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an out for suspicious looking people lurking around oil refineries.
Always carring about property before people.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:12 AM
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6. That would be his priority, |
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:puke: And it will resonate with real Americans. Just keep talking Jr. America is listening.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:16 AM
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8. bush can go FUCK HIMSELF! |
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And then he can go FUCK OFF!
Whoever watched that interview..if they were an intelligent person must have gotten Very Sick!
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:04 AM
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3. He grew up there so I guess he knows the struggles of many people |
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there. He seemed very upset.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:29 AM
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11. AND his late mother was a judge! |
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I was amazed that he said what he said.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:13 AM
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7. Winton Marsalis said something similar |
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When asked about the looting and violence on CNN this morning, he said (slightly paraphrased): "It's an inevitable result of what our society has become. When you have a culture that creates cities filled with poor teeming masses, this is what happens."
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:24 AM
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10. Speak Wynton! You get it! |
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It's an inevitable result of what our society has become. When you have a culture that creates cities filled with poor teeming masses, this is what happens."
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:23 AM
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That's a really good point about the deeper issues of allowing so much poverty, but I'm still not sure I can bring myself to excuse people stealing TVs and stereos - I mean, they are stealing from their neighbors.
But of course food and water is a different story. If my children were hungry and thirsty, I wouldn't hesitate to "loot."
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:39 AM
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12. I know what you mean. Food and water are one thing. But the COPS... |
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... taking stuff from the Wal-Mart? (I mean, CNN lst night showed cops pushing shopping carts through the Wal-Mart and taking clothes and shoes and stuff, right along with the rest). I mean, GOOD LORD! It's shocking to see.
I might take food and water if my family needed them and there were no other option. And I would repay whomever I stole from as soon as I could (send Wal-Mart some money anonymously, later, or whatever). But I would never take property. I just couldn't. We all know it's wrong to steal and smash up other people's property. Just wrong.
BUT! I haven't been desperately poor, either. There's no power, so people can't USE those plasma TVs -- maybe they want to sell them to get out of town and afford food or a hotel or whatever.
I'm not in their shoes, so I can't say what I'd do. It's easy to make judgments, typing away on my computer in my dry, comfy living room, with a nice, satisfying breakfast in my tummy.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:46 AM
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13. I have been poor. Very poor. And you're assessment is what I feel. |
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the looters are stealing from everyone. It's one thing to get basic supplies to feed yourself... but obviously the looting, which was condoned here over and over, has spilled into violence. that's the problem with lawless behavior, it escalates into utter chaos.
As I think about the extreme looting of things that are not necessities, I think of the people that own the businesses being attacked. Most are not large corporations, they are people who could have very well been in the same financial situation as some who are described here as poor and deserving of the stolen loot. I think what it would be like to work for years to make a living for yourself, be relieved that your business was still standing after the catastrophe, then watch it destroyed by bands of looters. That is what I have a hard time with.
I hope when this is all over that everyone at DU can forgive each other for our vehement disasgreements over looting, because that has really become a hot button here. I do agree with many that it is a sign of the hopelessness of the economy, but I also vehemently maintain that is is wrong. Looting hurts people and causes total chaos in a place where helping victims should be the priority. See how it's escalateed in the past few days? It makes rescues nearly impossible and endangers everyone there.
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Thu Sep-01-05 10:46 AM
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14. I have been poor. Very poor. And your assessment is what I feel. |
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the looters are stealing from everyone. It's one thing to get basic supplies to feed yourself... but obviously the looting, which was condoned here over and over, has spilled into violence. that's the problem with lawless behavior, it escalates into utter chaos.
As I think about the extreme looting of things that are not necessities, I think of the people that own the businesses being attacked. Most are not large corporations, they are people who could have very well been in the same financial situation as some who are described here as poor and deserving of the stolen loot. I think what it would be like to work for years to make a living for yourself, be relieved that your business was still standing after the catastrophe, then watch it destroyed by bands of looters. That is what I have a hard time with.
I hope when this is all over that everyone at DU can forgive each other for our vehement disasgreements over looting, because that has really become a hot button here. I do agree with many that it is a sign of the hopelessness of the economy, but I also vehemently maintain that is is wrong. Looting hurts people and causes total chaos in a place where helping victims should be the priority. See how it's escalateed in the past few days? It makes rescues nearly impossible and endangers everyone there.
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