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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:36 PM
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Concession ALLOWS the votes to be counted
No challenges, all the votes are being counted. Do you think that they would continue counting provisionals in Ohio if the legal war was on?

I dunno, but I think Kerry decided the only way to get all the votes counted was to concede.

So now that ballots are not tied up in court, I am sure the legals are making sure they are all counted and certified, or at least keeping an eye on it that it is done. Do you think that would be happening now? If Kerry brought the legals out, provisionals would eventually be thrown out, and you all know that.

If we feel that the provisionals in Ohio and other states, and the other ballots to be counted in Florida continue to be counted, what if it swung two states in a couple of weeks?

Fodder for the cannon..
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:10 PM
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1. I say don't get your hopes up.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:34 PM
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2. There are laws that govern the counting of provisional ballots,
The counting of these ballots is required and independent of whatever other legal challenge may be pursued. They would be counted concession or not. Out of courtesy to those of us who have put our lives on hold for the last month, put our own issues second, took the trouble to vote provisional, and a whole host of other descriptions of folks who went above and beyond the call of duty, Kerry should have waited to concede until after the provisionals and absentee ballots were counted.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:50 PM
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3. No way in hell those ballots would count if Kerry took legal action.
I was wondering if that was the strategy all along. The Repukes have been saying all along that those ballots would be thrown out of court from day one. At least now, a ballot counting sleeper campaign can occur.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:01 PM
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4. "ballet counting sleeper campaign?"
Yeah, it's just that, a sleeper, but one that never wakes up.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:13 PM
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9. How many provisional ballots were there? nt
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:08 PM
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5. Here's the rub:
The bulk of the ballots are "provisional". That usually means that someone at the precinct had a "reason" for challenging the voter. Without vigorous legal representation, guess how that call will go.


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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:17 PM
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6. Goes both ways
> Without vigorous legal representation, guess how that call will go.

But after Kerry conceded, there won't be a vigorous legal representation trying to get votes thrown-out! While not a good plan, it's the best available at this time. Impeachment is the only fallback.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:21 PM
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7. Republicans ALWAYS fight...
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 08:23 PM by Junkdrawer
It's why they win so often.

On Edit:

And they have no compunction about fighting dirty, either.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:23 PM
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8. Fitzpatrick is another fallback...
If only someone would light a fire under his slow, run-out-the-clock investigation into the Plame treason.
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Sivafae Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:31 PM
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10. I hate to sound dumb
but if he conceded already, then does't have to let it all go? If it turns out that he did indeed win the vote, doen't he have to stand by what he said?
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Kammer Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:46 PM
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11. No
A concession has no legal significance. If a miracle happened (it won't) and he ended up with more votes, he would win.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:05 PM
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12. If the votes are there for Kerry, Bush cannot just "have" them
or have them "not count".. What a hoot it would be, if when the soldier's votes are counted...what if they did NOT vote for Bush in big numbers..

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