MikeG
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Wed Nov-10-04 06:47 PM
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WAKE UP GEEZERS!!! HE'S CUTTING YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY!!! |
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Wed Nov-10-04 06:51 PM
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1. When looking for the Senior vote |
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it's best not to call them "geezers". :)
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Wed Nov-10-04 06:54 PM
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2. They only focus on the checks. |
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:02 PM
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that you've absolutely no idea about what "geezers" think, not to mention how to win friends and influence people.
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:04 PM
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7. You need to hang with more of them. |
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They got an alarm rigged to C-Span to warn them.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:27 AM
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So I understand , as others might not, how full of nonsense is your premise.
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:02 PM
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5. once was more than enough |
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Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 07:03 PM by Ardee
n/t
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:25 PM
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When the check gets smaller, you will see some yelling.
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:09 PM
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9. Yeah, call them "Old Farts". |
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:48 PM
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This whole thread is making me laugh :)
:toast:
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Tue Nov-16-04 04:24 AM
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:42 AM
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It's almost as offensive as racial or sexist slurs.
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Wed Nov-10-04 06:54 PM
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3. Boomers have more to worry about |
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Is Bush proposing to cut SS for people who are already senior citizens? It seems to me that Boomers have more to worry about. For generation X and Y, Bush's plan may be a wash.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:22 AM
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:04 PM
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You kiss your mom with that mouth?
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Wed Nov-10-04 07:06 PM
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8. Well, what are they supposed to do about it now |
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that the election has been stolen? :shrug:
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:31 PM
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11. Repubs won't cut check to elderly now. |
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They are in waiting for the Boomers.
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:26 AM
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According to what I read, if Bush's privatization goes through (and how could it possibly fail to go through?), the fund for current retirees will have a 2 trillion shortfall. Now, I don't know what's in the fund currently, but a shortfall is still a shortfall.
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:26 AM
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43. Don't know about that |
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According to what I read, if Bush's privatization goes through (and how could it possibly fail to go through?), the fund for current retirees will have a 2 trillion shortfall. Now, I don't know what's in the fund currently, but a shortfall is still a shortfall.
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:31 PM
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S'ok. I mean it's you youn'uns that'll have to pay off the national debt. Now, pass me my smuggled canadian meds, would ya?
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:36 PM
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13. Geezerina here. I am planning for no social security. Berm house, |
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land for vegetables and other produce and hybrid cars. Probably should do all of that anyway but I figure we should be able to eke out some kind of existence.
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:20 PM
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Don't call me an old geezer and don't call me an old fart!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember you will be my age someday. AND I DID NOT VOTE FOR THE ASSHOLE SHRUB.
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:43 PM
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16. Look at my profile. I'm not far behind. Ms. Chronologically challenged. |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:43 AM
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27. Oh well, I guess we can always file for bankruptcy. |
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:48 PM
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17. Good boy MikeG is getting better at this then I am |
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:53 PM
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18. I don't think it's the current seniors who will be affected. I think its |
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us middle-agers who will be screwed. I'm 49 and my husband is 54. We've been paying into SS for 35 years and are so close. Will it be there in 15 years for us? I doubt it. And it's really, really sad. All in order to keep the billionares status quo. God, do I hate *!
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:42 AM
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32. Agreed, middle agers will get hit the most. |
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If (or more likely when) it happens the young will have longer to plan and the elderly will hopefully not see a change. It's those of us in the middle who are too close to save substantially more that will get screwed.
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:53 AM
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because there are more of us boomers than any other generation. i will have a pension....hopefully it will remain solvent so i don't become a bag lady!
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:55 PM
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I'll ask my mum to tell me when her check changes.
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Wed Nov-10-04 10:22 PM
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20. The young have more to lose. |
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By calling SS a retirement fund they've already screwed you. It is an insurance policy also. Widows and orphans collect from this fund as well as disabled workers. It's another fraud like the MSAs. You are going to be betting that you accumulate enough funds to carry you through before a disaster hits. Typical GOP ploy plays on greed. Hoping to get yours and screw the less fortunate=values.
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Thu Nov-11-04 12:24 AM
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To remind you that it's not just the elderly who receive SS checks. Those of us who are too young to "retire" but are disabled are affected just as much and are screaming just as loud as the "geezers".
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Thu Nov-11-04 12:30 AM
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the dogfood tastes better to old folks when they know that the sanctity of marraige has been protected
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Thu Nov-11-04 02:02 AM
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23. Do you have a link to any info on him cutting Social Security, or is |
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this just a preemptive rant?
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:28 AM
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44. Been a couple of articles posted on DU lately |
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Go to Slate and do a search; I don't have the link handy.
As I understand it, the privatization plan will leave the fund for current retirees' with a 2 trillion dollar shortfall.
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Thu Nov-11-04 06:30 AM
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24. Geezers? Only concerned about the check? |
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:03 AM
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28. they won't make outright cuts to SS |
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they have already upped the premiums to Medicare over the past four years at the rate of 54%. That money is deducted from your SS check.
The majority of the people depending solely on SS, are poor elderly women.
If there is a catastrophic illness or accident requiring a lot of medical intervention, there will be lots of bills to pay that Medicare will not pay. If one cannot make those bills, and is forced to go on Medicaid, one's house and property will be confiscated in order to pay for those bills.
No matter what it means, no matter if it keeps you independant and out of nursing homes, no matter if you have lived in it for fifty years.
That is justice. :shrug:
I sense a perception that the young resent paying for the elderly-as if there is a direct hand over of their money to us and we do not deserve it because we get sick too much. We live in houses that they cannot now afford to buy. We are retired and worryless about striving to make it in today's world (although many seniors are forced to go back to work) After all, we have had the good fortune to have lived in what I think is the best years ever to live in this country before it started downhill and dammit that is just not fair.
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Tue Nov-16-04 09:30 AM
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40. Well, this 21 year old doesn't resent paying for the elderly |
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But then, I'm fairly well read in twentieth century American history. It may not be safe to presume that others are as well.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:46 AM
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29. I'm a pre-Geezer and fully awake. There's not a damn thing I can do to |
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:47 AM
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30. What Bill are you referring to? |
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I was unaware of any pending legislation that cuts SS benefits...
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:31 AM
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31. here in SC, I see more |
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seniors than I can count cruising around in their Buicks with W04 bumper stickers still affixed. I work next to a VA hospital and you wouldn't believe the dumb vets (yea, I said it) with either pro-Bush stickers still on their jalopies or worse, with anti-Kerry ones.
FUCK 'em all. When their SS, Medicare and veteran's benefits dry up, I will happily remind them if their vote and right now I don't give a shit what happens to them. Let them live on faith.
Hey Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, does anyone ever get stuck in the anger stage??? Cause I don't see my rage softening anytime soon.
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Thu Nov-11-04 04:49 PM
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34. You are absolutely right! The only people in this country |
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that we need to worry about are Democrats. They don't deserve to live.
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Tue Nov-16-04 12:20 PM
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There are some who theorize that is what happened to Hitler after his mother died. He blamed his Mother's physician which led to his advocating persecution. I always thought that was a poor excuse for mass murder of millions.
There are a lot of people who are generally angry, some behaviorist call this "setting events". Some events are more lasting than others.
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Thu Nov-11-04 12:37 PM
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is ageist and disrespectful. What do you call other groups?
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Thu Nov-11-04 05:36 PM
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Who are you calling a geezer? You wouldn't use a slur like that for any other group of people, so just pipe down you snotty nosed little whippersnapper. It's your social security that going to get, not mine.
A proud old geezer
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Tue Nov-16-04 09:27 AM
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39. Oh come on now, have a sense of humor |
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It got your attention, didn't it? :) My dad proudly calls himself a geezer and he's just 55.
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Tue Nov-16-04 12:29 PM
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49. That is my sense of humor |
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Sorry if you didn't catch it.
Signed, once again Proud Old Geezer
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Tue Nov-16-04 04:11 PM
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51. Sorry, my sense of irony has gotten rusty in recent days |
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There have been so many times lately when I've assumed that something had to be meant tongue-in-cheek but then turned out to be genuine insanity, like the eminent werenotsorry.com. I now have some trouble discerning humor from sincerely blind outrage.
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Tue Nov-16-04 04:52 PM
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52. My sense of humor gets a tinge of |
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sarcastic irony sometimes, which probably doesn't translate well in print. I'll have to remember to use smilies.
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Tue Nov-16-04 05:21 AM
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37. The cost will be too high |
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How can Bush expect to cover the transition cost of 2 Trillion dollars? We've already reached our credit limit! The country will go bankrupt - hopefully, there are enough fiscal conservatives in Congress to thwart the plan.
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Tue Nov-16-04 09:14 AM
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38. I know elderly people who are very worried about Bush |
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and their SS and their grandchildren and the draft and Iraq. Not everyone of a certain age group, even in Red states voted for him. If you were in your 70s or 80s and left to the mercy of the system and you watched as Bush stole another election and started talking about the privatization of Social Security; you'd be upset.
Elderly people are stunned by what is going on in our country, and some even voted early to make sure they got their vote in, in case they died or became ill before election day. This was a big deal to many folks. A very big deal.
Keep yelling voter fraud and yell it louder for those who are unable to raise their voices.
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Tue Nov-16-04 10:03 AM
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is create our own network to help liberal retirees/disabled and hope that Bush does cut social security, it's what rebublican retirees deserve.
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Tue Nov-16-04 11:31 AM
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45. They Don't Want to Hear It |
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My husband tries telling the old guys he knows that Social Security as they know it is moribund. They all say, "Oh, they'll never touch Social Security. They wouldn't dare."
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Tue Nov-16-04 12:36 PM
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50. Stop calling me "Geezer", you young whippersnapper you! |
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Tue Nov-16-04 05:07 PM
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53. lol, I don't really find "geezer" that offensive |
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it denotes a feistiness - like the word BROAD.
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