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_Wayne_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:04 PM Original message |
Kerry's endorsement is an ill-timed slap in the face to Edwards, Clinton, and all Democrats |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. I can't see it any other way. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Slap in the face to Hillary? I don't see that. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. I certainly never expected him to endorse Hillary. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. People who endorse now, rather than wait until the nominee is clear, can actually have an influence. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. The timing is a bit silly |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank god nobody gives one shit what Kerry thinks |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. At least you don't |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Not One Vote |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. the all-knowing jgraz |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. OK, explain who follows John Kerry's advice in the voting booth |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Kerry has one of the most coveted email lists in dem politics |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. It wasn't intended to help Obama. It was intended to hurt Edwards |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Please explain your reasoning. n/t |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Admittedly, the other explanation is that Kerry is a political idiot. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. nonsense. Edwards isn't even viable. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Baloney! Edwards is the only Dem candidate who "consistently" for the last 6 months |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. that doesn't make him viable and |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Only in your mind. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Which is why Obama has been stealing everything he says |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Precisely. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. oh silliness |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Obama track record with lobbyists in Illinois was not very good. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. don't be absurd. He played basketball and |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Right, he just plays games and socializes with them |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. He's not taking money from lobbyists |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Whoops, you're right. He just installs them as his campaign chairs. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. If Edwards who is still doing well for a media shunned candidate |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. It could hurt Obama. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. your claim comes without evidence and with the apocryphal |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Email lists are not that difficult to come by anymore. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Obviously, you're an idiot....n/t |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. Seems that the DLC shut Kerry out recently. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. *cough*billclinton*cough* |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Thank you for *coughing* that out ;) |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why should Edwards care what Kerry thinks or who he endorses? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I don't think Clinton much cares either. |
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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. isn't |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. You are afflicted with sour grapes. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Ill-timed?" I'd say well timed! |
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DB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yes. Speak your mind, but only if you agree with me. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. I thought it ill timed. Can't help Obama much in SC but does slap Edwards |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Obama is 46 years old. Hardly a youngster. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. My point is Kerry cited age when he made his comparisons. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. I think more of endorsements when they come early, when it takes |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. yawn. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is a year a former President of the United States is out on the campaign trail every day |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. you can speak for yourself, but you have no right to speak for "most |
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vee (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oborax is what |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. Boy, you're sure going to be mad when Gore endorses Obama. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. Baloney. I'm a Dem and thought he went with his gut, like I am. nt |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. Since the endorsement has been planned for weeks, |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. Edwards had no intention to stay out of the race if Kerry ran again in 2008 |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. "all Democrats" |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. Please do not attempt to speak for all Democrats. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. It's a good endorsement |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
38. Not a slap in the face of this Democrat |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
39. "we need somebody to put an end to swiftboating, not someone who has perfected it." |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. Don't forget Kerry like Dubya is member of Skull & Bones. n/t |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. self-delete |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. This decision is a poor reflection on Kerry |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kerry knows who the asshole is |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Amen n/t |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. That would be Kerry himself. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. "I doubt his endorsement will change anything. " |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. What a ridiculous argument! |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
54. Kerry might have held off endorsing |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. Doesn't his endorsement cancel itself out? |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. psst- |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. oh, you have a mistake free candidate? |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. psst |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
89. sorry. |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Apology accepted |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. interesting conundrum to be sure |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
64. You mean he should give his endorsement when it no longer matters? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I agree that Kerry's endorsement no longer matters. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. That's not what I said - but peace to you and have a nice day |
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DivorcingNeo (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Commonsense |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
74. Since 2004 it has leaked that Edwards wanted to fight so every vote counted |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. That's not correct |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Kerry conceded the election ASAP |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. That's not what it says at the link. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
79. Kerry managed to lose to the most unpopular president in American history |
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DivorcingNeo (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. But if it was Hillary instead? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Knee jerk |
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DivorcingNeo (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I accept your opinion as it stands... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
80. Kerry didn't question that box on Dimson's back |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
82. IMHO Kerry is an irrelevant milksop nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
83. Yeah! How dare he endorse a candidate before a primary! |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
85. He has a right to endorse anyone he wants to endorse. |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I don't care who he backs |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
90. The insult was John Edwards, "The Fighter", taking a dive like Jake LaMotta vs. Cheney in 2004 |
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