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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:15 PM Original message |
Oh fuck. Obama's minister has really gone over the line now. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 PM Original message |
And how is that over the line? One might disagree with him, sure; |
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mrdemocrat78 (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. or untrue? |
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Tess99 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, how is the good Rev. wrong? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. it's something that will NOT help Obama among |
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Tess99 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. I don't think it hurts at all |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. It will hurt among white voters. |
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Tess99 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. I don't get how this could possibly hurt him with white voters? |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. You Know You Can't Talk About Race Among White Voters |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. He shouldn't be talking politics from the pulpit at all.. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
77. well, no one reported it |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. 8 years of Clinton prosperity: If all YOU got was a "bone" you have only yourselfto blame. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. "He did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky." |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. I think it may have been the other way around. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. got her a really cushy job |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
88. maybe he was referring to the Cigar-treatment? |
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mrdemocrat78 (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Let's Not Bring Ministers Into this... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. I'd love for this not to be in the mix, but it is and sticking your head |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. This minister brought himselft in--alll by himself |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM Original message |
Amen. Where there's smoke there is fire. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Those preachers.....minds are always in the gutter. |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. .. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wow. That was a horrible thing to say.... |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Agree with you on that. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Obama's a good man. This guy isn't helping him. nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Ouch, better he hadn't said that |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. Seems inappropriate |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Sounds like he needs his tax exemption yanked |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. That's for sure |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's pretty fucking ugly |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
12. Using the pulpit to push a political candidate |
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mrdemocrat78 (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. It's also illegal... but not Obama's fault |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Of course not. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. ........ |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. LOLLLL ... ain't that the truth! |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. lol, was about to write that |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. *rimshot* |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
110. be fair... |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
96. This is illegal? I dont think so |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
113. Not illegal |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. Obama's not responsible for what his minister says.. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. What is it with preachers? Do they ever think of anything but sex? |
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mrdemocrat78 (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Well, at least he didn't compared him to Foley |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Nice anti-gay dig. |
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Barb in Atl (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. ??? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. He is. Dunno what's up with that comment above. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. Okay now THAT is going to be a problem. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. I think Obama needs to have a chat with his pastor about keeping the campaign outside of church |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. Boy, I bet Obama cringed when he heard that. I know I did. nt |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
29. Its a non issue. Wasnt it before the truce? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. ... |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
31. Damn, that was tacky |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
32. As David Mamet says, "In aid of what?" |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. your last line could be turned around to |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. Why is a preacher talking about stuff like that? |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
84. He wanted to remind his parish of Bill's immorality |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. Did he justify his inflammatory rhetoric in any way? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:29 PM Original message |
It doesn't matter. We live in soundbite nation. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. All pastors, ministers, clergy, should SHUT UP about politics and voting. nt |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. ohh no he di int |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. Obama surrogates run amok. nt. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
41. What's the problem? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Thank you, some sanity on |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. black people = poor. got it. nt. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. As a person who was poor during the beginning of the Clinton presidency |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Many people on welfare are black |
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ArkySue (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
107. Fact: |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. It looks like the minister stirring the pot of racial division again. nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Under Clinton, the black unemployment rate dropped, as did the black crime rate, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. No, I don't think Obama should sever ties with his pastor |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I agree, if confronted about the comments |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. The problem is this was printed in a |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's Sister Souljah time, Barack. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. I read recently that Rev. Wright is retiring this year. Seems he wants to go out with a bang! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
49. Proposed Truce II: Let's agree that not all supporters are reading off talking points |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
52. That's disappointing, but why are reporters spying on Obama's church |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
53. He did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky? He let you give him oral? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
56. Not cool, Pastor. But, you know, does Obama control his pastor? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Of course I know that, but it's |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
58. Here's Obama's response, from the link in your OP... |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. We really, really, really need to get religion out of politics. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. All of Democratic candidates believe in the separation of church and state. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I hope we get it back, because I'm real tired of all the religious stuff of the |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. "But as he prepares to retire..." |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. That's going to hurt Obama's minister in the polls |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. lol |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. if you don't think that this couldn't hurt Obama |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. that's kind of "below the belt" as it were |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Yeah, it's unfair to bring that back up. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Yeah, I didn't expect this issue to "pop up" at this time |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. Obama's response? Does anyone care? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Of course people care |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. Please explain how Bill Clinton got a blow-job from Black people. nt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Monica as a victim |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. NO NO. Obama's church affiliation isnt going to garner any attention. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
80. Clinton had a great record on black issues and Obama called Bill Clinton's policies progressive |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:12 PM Original message |
*insert something reasonable here while i try to stop laughing* |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
87. Oh, Snap! I wondered when Lewinsky would make her entrance. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
89. Well, Cali--I agree--the little minister is over the line: He did the same thing to us that he did t |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
90. I still have a problem with ministers being involved in politics from the pulpit anyway. Besides |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Maybe the Rev is talkin' about this.. |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
91. Jeez - and here I thought it was a mayonnaise stain on my blue dress. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
93. Yet another example of how Christianity has been bastardized... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
94. "He did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky." |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. and we didnt get to see the Oval Office (or a cigar) |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
98. It is so funny to watch you guys justify every ugly thing the Obama campaign does. |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Obama has nothing to do with this, IMO. He can't be held |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Riiiggghht. Obama never is responsible when his campaign does something |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. All this negativity will be great fodder for the repubs come the |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. I respect this skepticism... but clearly obama and his pastor dont share the same general msg (lol) |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Check out some of the previous posts. |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
99. That kind of preaching to me should lose him his churches |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
100. ROFLMAO....Billo Big Dawg Fucked them too???????? lol |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
103. cali, |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Well they can bring it on! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
108. The Clenis had consensual sex with black people as a whole? |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
111. AND THAT is why he's the first black president... |
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112. He Doesn't Need That Many Interns |
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