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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:33 PM Original message |
Says Joe Lowery: Obama’s black doubters have a ‘slave mentality’ |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. nice |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Seems some people can't help themselves |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
101. Or maybe they are just smart enough to know what this country |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. this is going to hurt Obama with a white backlash |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Hold on |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Come on |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. So you disagree with Obama then. nt |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. And the Clintons are playing race cards. |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Misfire |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. The answer (Rasmussen) |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. still not impressed |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. when will everyone stfu about the race thing? |
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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. i love it when you say stfu |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. This was slightly needed to be said... |
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sb5697 (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. This is not an attack on Obama. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. You're right. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Please don't be sad about this, Jeff! |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Oh don't feel bad for posting it. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Who is this joker? Please don't tell me he is another one associated with you know who's campaign |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Joker? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. I stand corrected. The name did sound vaguely familiar |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Oh crikey mario |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You didn't know? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No |
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bcoylepa (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. educate yourself |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Thank you |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. well said . it is pathetic on many levels.. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. You don't know who Rev. Joseph Lowery is? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. ohhh that guy ! the guy who made the bush`s |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. There are black leaders saying a black man can't win |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I don't know about the |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. A whole lot of white people are saying the same thing |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. A white person wouldn't call it a slave mentality |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. You're right - they would not label it as that, but they're saying the same thing |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I see it as a serious setback for the country, |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. I don't see it that way . . . |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
98. Seems you're quite adament the time is now |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Obama is such a dynamic and visionary leader that a loss would be a setback and a tragedy |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I'm an Obama supporter |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. I agree that children need to see accomplishment to believe in it |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. ... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. ... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
19. The idea suggests that blacks will vote for Obama just because he is black. |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Sure it is |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. so you think people should vote race and gender? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I actually dont fault people |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Reality |
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NJObamaWoman (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. No its not. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. I see a generational gap. Lowery isn't helping one bit, but |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. Rev Lowery was the one who |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. I respect Rev Lowery and understand what he's saying |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I would really like to know |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. My candidate is Kucinich |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Then don't vote for him, no matter what Rev. Lowery says. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I'm not furious over it, I'm annoyed |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. You called |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. I called *Obama* a motherfucker. |
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kickitup (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Sorry |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. It's okay..who you vote for |
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sb5697 (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
40. You guys are the ones fanning the flames |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
50. Interesting article. Internalized racism is real and a worthy topic of discussion...n/t |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Agree. but maybe *some* people feel they can't win because... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. Now that he has shown success, yes. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
52. Race, Sex, Truce |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. Sexy race? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. I totally agree. It's true. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. it`s a lot more that crap..... |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. . |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
60. So if you're black, you're either for Obama, or you have a slave mentality? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. its a ridiculous overstatement |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. It's not about blacks voting for Clinton. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I'm sorry, but its a guilt trip |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Guilt trip? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. You are presenting 1/2 or less of their answer. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Yes, absolutely. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. No. Their main concern is getting a Dem in the WH. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Mmm... I guess we have different perspectives on the issue. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. No, you got it wrong, on purpose. Let me explain. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Don't lecture me on my "vision of race." Thank you. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I'm not lecturing you on your vision of race, dude. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I don't see how my take is wrong. Sorry to have a contrary opinion in an Obama thread. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. C'mon, Skip. What's going on? We are just debating an issue here |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Well, I'll comment where I feel like commenting. I've read and re-read the OP. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. I accept your point. I hope you at least understand mine. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I look forward to future discussions with you as well. I don't see where this one was uncivil. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. What if a black person won't vote for Clinton because he/she thinks Clinton can't win? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. If the person refuses to vote for Clinton because "the country won't elect a woman" |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. There is no logic |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. No, from my perspective, as a black person |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. I am capable of having this discussion |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. No, Jim. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. You may have judged him more electable |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Yeah, absolutely. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Why does race or gender matter? I'm not for Hillary 'cuz she's a woman, |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Well, I think we agree. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. I think you're completely missing the point |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Hang in - you're fighting the good fight |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Thanks, Effie. I know I'm right on this one |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. It's a tough job, isn't it? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Absolutely! |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Nicely stated |
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