Tulsa CBS news found double voting

[karlrschneider]

Some people did "early voting" (they call it "in-person absentee")...an employee of KOTV voted legitimately last Friday then showed up at his precinct yesterday and was given a ballot...apparently there were no records of his 'absentee' ballot. They will eventually find out how many of these took place but it might take weeks. I just have to wonder how widespread this sort thing was. :grr:

[Deja Q]

1. And since Coward decided to Concede, nothing can be done.

:grr: :mad:

Kerry's just as guilty as the degenerate deceptive repukes.

[mistertrickster]

3. well, let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Somebody who gives up in the face of evil is not as bad as the man who is evil.

[Straight Shooter]

5. No. Concession is not binding if final tally proves alternate outcome.

But it sure doesn't look good to do it, I agree.

[kiahzero]

9. Bullshit.

His concession speech is legally meaningless.

But way to lie in order to attack your own. You should be proud.

[sarahlee]

12. Kerry conceded, but we don't have to . . .

Kerry Can Win Ohio
By the International Labor Communications Association
http://ILCAonline.org

The media has collapsed and Kerry has conceded, but we don't have to.

According to CNN, Bush is ahead in the count in Ohio by 136,221. According to the Toledo Blade, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell has said the number of provisional ballots could be about 175,000. Blackwell also told the Blade that in the last election 90 percent of the provisional ballots ended up being declared valid and being counted, a figure also reported by CBS News Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen.

There is good reason to believe that the provisional ballots are disproportionately for Kerry. This is because many of them are the result of Republicans challenging voters at the polls.

Therefore, Kerry can win, and we need to demand that every vote be counted.

The provisional ballots are expected to be counted in 10 days. Meanwhile, state law allows Republican and Democratic challengers to examine the envelopes and to challenge their eligibility to be counted.

We need massive public pressure in Columbus, Ohio, to demand a fair count.
If you can't go to Ohio, call the Democratic National Committee at 202-863-8000 and tell them that you want the count monitored.
Send them an Email on this page:
http://www.democrats.org/contact

Write letters to the editors of your local newspapers.

Call your local radio and television stations.

Write or call your Congress Members and other elected officials.

Tell them all we want an accurate count.

In addition, numerous possible cases of Republican wrongdoing in Ohio are being investigated, and we must be prepared to act quickly and in great numbers. Various such cases in Florida four years ago were discovered too late.

There are numerous complaints from Ohio of lines at the polls being longer in heavily Democratic precincts, also a result of Republican challengers and part of the Republicans' plan. Other complaints include rejected registrations, polls not open on time, and voters turned away. See:
http://ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=866
and
http://www.alternet.org/election04oh/20384/
and
http://www.michaelmoore.com/electionwatch/state.php?state=OH
and
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/features/election_protests/

Also watch for a related release later today from the Institute for Public Accuracy:
http://www.accuracy.org/

We may also need to demand investigation of the voting machines in Ohio. A year ago the head of Diebold, the company that produced the machines, boasted of his intent to help Bush carry Ohio.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm

Remember what happened in Florida in 2000:
http://ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=835

For updates, watch http://ILCAonline.org

For questions or information, contact:
David Swanson
ILCA Media Coordinator
[e-mail]
202-974-8037

Please post comments to:
http://ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=883

[karlrschneider]

14. True dat, but Blackwell is a Repub apparatchik, I wouldn't trust him

any place, any time, for one nanosecond. But we'll see what we shall see I suppose.

[sarahlee]

13. EVERY VOTE MUST BE COUNTED!

One More . . .

http://www.nov3.us/urgentresponsenetwork2.php

EVERY VOTE MUST BE COUNTED!
NO DISENFRANCHISEMENT!
11/03/04 - 11:00 a.m. Eastern Standard Time

It's not over: As of the morning of November 3, 2004, the outcome of the 2004 presidential election has still not been determined, and we must not allow it to be determined until every one of our votes has been counted. The No Stolen Elections! campaign urges you to do whatever you can to ensure that this election is fair. There are as many as 250,000 provisional ballots in Ohio that have not been counted and there are many questions about the integrity of the election, which must be investigated. We urge you to take action today to defend our democracy!

TAKE ACTION ON NOVEMBER 3:

*CALL ELECTION OFFICIALS IN OHIO TO DEMAND THAT ALL VOTES ARE COUNTED. Call the Ohio Secretary of State's office and demand that all legal votes in Ohio, including provisional ballots, be counted.


CONTACT: 614-466-2585

*SUPPORT THE PROTESTS IN OHIO. Many groups in Ohio are going to take to the streets today to demand that all votes in Ohio be counted, to demand that no one be disenfranchised and all voting irregularities be investigated. Tell everyone you know in Ohio to support these efforts, and consider going to Ohio yourself. See the call to action at www.indyvoter.org.

*KEEP ORGANIZING. Organize town hall meetings or other events within the next few days or turn your planned Nov. 3 protests into public meetings to discuss voting irregularities in your community, what happened nationally, and where do we go from here.

NO STOLEN ELECTIONS! ~ Don't mourn, organize!

[Flammable Materials]

2. Doesn't matter.

Game over. Our candidate didn't care enough to wait until the truth could be known. He bailed on us so fast, I think I got whiplash.

DISCLAIMER: Author is drunk on Belgian ale. But many a truth is spoken in a state of inebriation.

[ogradda]

6. "he got whiplash"

hehe first time i've laughed today :)

[kiahzero]

10. Many a lie, also, apparently (n/t)

[Clovis Sangrail]

11. so what happens

if in 3 weeks we find that Kerry did carry Florida... and/or Ohio?

Is it over because he gave a concession speech before the results were in?

I keep hearing this and I'm unclear on it.
Wouldn't a revised vote count supercede any concession speech?

[TrustingDog]

4. dumb question here...

when you register, do you have to register as a party member or independent or are you clean?

[ellie]

16. In Ohio,

you don't declare your party affiliation when you register to vote. I think it is only if you vote in the primaries that you have to declare.

[bushisanidiot]

7. But they won't be able to subtract the double votes by 1 each

because there's no way of knowing how they voted.. only that they voted twice.

fucking cheating repukes. there's no way they could have "won" without pulling this shit all across the country. i wonder if this is what their "72 hour program" was all about.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

8. Seems odd that they'd even make the effort.....

Tulsa's Dumbyass country anyway. :shrug:

[mzmolly]

15. I've heard that the count the FIRST vote that is cast and toss the other.

At least that's how they do it in Minnesota.