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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:59 AM
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Ukraine Cite Examples Of Voting Fraud – In The United States
Monday, 29 November 2004, 12:25 pm
Opinion: Jackson Thoreau
International Observers From The Ukraine Cite Examples Of Voting Fraud – In The United States

By Jackson Thoreau
OpEdNews.com

http://www.opednews.com/thoreau_112404_ukraine.htm
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:02 PM
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1. Please read and Kick
Kicking
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:10 PM
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4. No shit! Kick kick kick!!!!
The press wants to talk about the Ukraine so much lets have them repeat this little tid bit!!!


Today is a pretty good day!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:08 PM
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2. Are you sending this to the media?
I see reports like this all the time and am wondering if people are taunting our MSM w/ this stuff? Maybe if they get enough of this stuff they will all grow some balls! I know I've sent a few here and there. This one is one they need to see. Add a little note to it telling how repulsed we all are by our MSM and see how long it will take for them to respond. We need to send them more than the numbers! Re-crunching and re-verifying those nembers takes time and they have to do it to run the story! Let's give them some incentive! We need to make them realize how regressive they are!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:17 PM
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10. BTW
This litte excerpt is verifiable where?

"At his ranch in Texas, Bush, who was on his 22nd consecutive day of vacation following the "election," spoke briefly to reporters. "We have put our antennas out," Bush said, sipping on a large mug of beer, then placing both hands with raised index fingers on the top of his head to signify a strange version of an antenna. "We are deeply disturbed about the fraud reports we hear from Utah."

An aide then whispered in Bush’s ear, and he looked up with a smirk, "I mean, the Ukraine. That’s near Utah, right?" Bush whacked the aide on his back.

A journalist interrupted to say, "Uh, no, Mr. President, the Ukraine is HALFWAY AROUND THE FREAKING WORLD from Utah. Anyway, the matter at hand was about fraud reports in the U.S. What do you make of these reports of voting fraud right here in our country?"

Bush squinted hard at the reporter and replied, "Go ahead, punk, make my day!"

The journalist retorted, "What the hell do you mean, Mr. President?"

Bush then shrugged. "Beats me. I never know what’s going to come out of my mouth. Especially lately when I’ve been hitting the sauce and some really mind-expanding pills my doctors gives me."

:tinfoilhat:
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:10 PM
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3. Good article
Favorite quote:

"The exit polls that day pointed to a big win by Mr. Kerry," Yusogotcha said. "Yet, a sudden rush of ‘moral’ voters was said by your media to make the difference for Bush. Where were these ‘moral’ voters when your country was lying about its reasons for invading Iraq, taking over its oil and furthering certain people’s dreams of an empire? The world has not seen that many ‘moral’ American voters before."

There's also some funny chimp-mockery!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:11 PM
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5. Turn around is fair I guess

A delegation of international election observers from the Ukraine harshly criticized the recent U.S. electoral process, with one saying, "It reminds me of the worst examples of suppression and dirty tricks under the former Soviet regimes."

The delegation outlined a long list of alleged instances of fraud and questionable actions that occurred before and during the Nov. 2 election. Among those was Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chairman of Bush’s campaign in Ohio, deciding to only put two ballot machines per 100,000 voters in urban, Democratic-strong precincts and two machines per 10 voters in rural and suburban Republican-strong precincts.

"This was a blatant attempt to make voters for Mr. Kerry stand in long lines and leave without voting," said Yuri Yusogotcha, head of the Ukrainian delegation. "Our government does this in the Ukraine, too, especially when we run short of food.”

In addition, the delegation noted that Blackwell made a “curious comment” about Katherine Harris, the former Florida secretary of state who presided over the 2000 recount again as a co-chair of Bush’s campaign, being rewarded with a good position now in Congress. "As they say in your American streets, what up wit dat?" Yusogotcha asked.

snip
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:11 PM
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6. Funny
Good for a laugh, too bad it's not true.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:46 PM
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12. Agreed, not true
Among those was Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chairman of Bush’s campaign in Ohio, deciding to only put two ballot machines per 100,000 voters in urban, Democratic-strong precincts and two machines per 10 voters in rural and suburban Republican-strong precincts.

Statements that are obviously wrong like this make the entire article suspect. Spreading false information only hurts the cause.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:01 PM
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17. It's a SATIRE, for crying out loud.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:15 PM
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7. We remind them of the worst examples under Soviet regimes
Great. We remind them of the worst examples of suppression and dirty tricks.

Thanks bmoney07 for the link. Jackson Thoreau is great. The Ukraine people are great.

Interesting bit about Blackwell on the reward Katherine Harris got for Florida 2000. I bet he has his eyes on a sweet deal like that.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:16 PM
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8. Lots' of stuff here
That I had not heard before. Makes me even MORE outraged.
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:16 PM
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9. It Is SATIRE! Jesus Christ Don't Send it to the Media!! LOL n/t
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:25 PM
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11. Wait a second!
The MSM needs to know they are being satirized, don't you think? I'm sick of them sitting on their butts and glueing their mouths shut!!! That is the whole point of taunting them!
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:55 PM
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13. is this a paper for real
did Bush actually say these things abd if he did,then he still did not answer the question.


Bush squinted hard at the reporter and replied, "Go ahead, punk, make my day!"

The journalist retorted, "What the hell do you mean, Mr. President?"

Bush then shrugged. "Beats me. I never know what’s going to come out of my mouth. Especially lately when I’ve been hitting the sauce and some really mind-expanding pills my doctors gives me." ]

22 day of vacation, what the hell, I guess he needed it after all that cheating and before all that prison
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:10 PM
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15. Of course it's a joke.
I guess it's sounds pretty close to the truth, it's hard to figure out, but come on...
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:59 PM
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16. I guess because they mixed some real news in there
it threw me off,plus I skimmed it, when I went back and reread it I realised my error

Sipping his glass of beer (LOL)

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:02 PM
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18. I presume that's how satire usually works.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:06 PM
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14. It's so true, laughable, and painful it should be in "The onion"
How funny that we are the laughing stock of the world.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:04 PM
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19. Wow, how fake is that???
You-so-gotcha? Truly funny, nice satire.
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:06 PM
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20. sorry people
I did not mean to cause an uproar, just thought people should investigate.

:(
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:11 PM
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21. kick!
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:14 PM
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22. Imagine how the media would be all over this if it was in Ukraine?
Not to say they already are not, but jeez.

one saying, "It reminds me of the worst examples of suppression and dirty tricks under the former Soviet regimes."
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