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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:36 PM Original message |
FAIR on Chavez and the TV station |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. So many posts about Chavez that shed so little light. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Now now... Hugo eats babies, remember that. Thanks, btw, for the link |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. no shit. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Hmm, it does appear to be the case that thoughtful analysis... |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. Just to clarify-- I didn't use the sarcasm smilie. I'm happy that FAIR is on top of this |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. I still think it's bullshit. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They refused to show any other side except the anti-Chavez one. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You're wrong on that point. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You're right... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That's because Dan Rather was walking into a gun fight with a pair of brass knuckles |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. If a station in this country advocated a coup against Bushco,... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. even without the fairness doctrine, stations can have their renewal denied |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. That depends on the situation. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Just Like All Fox News |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Fox News is different, as it is on cable |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Cable, Schmable |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. it makes a huge difference |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. But Even "Free Speech" Has Its Limits |
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Rosephase (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. And who gets to decide what is in the publics interest? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. democratically elected officials |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I disagree |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. It does make a real difference |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Fox News Cable can do that |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. My Local Fox Affiliate, Then |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. It was an open and public plot to overthrow the Democratically elected government |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Don't let facts get in the way of opinion. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. There is video footage of RCTV congratulating the coup plotters |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Congratulations on robbing the bank, killbotfactory. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Shit... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I read that. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. Just a minute: are you saying you doubt extreme consequences should a coup be plotted,... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Nnnnoooooooo... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. They were intrumental in getting anti-Chavez protesters to march on pro-Chavez protesters |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. And yet still there's no evidence that the station knew anything about it. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Whew. Okay. But, you still deny participation in a coup. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Deleted message |
sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Thing is, our own leadership has utilized OUR money to propagate via corporacrats,... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Whatever you've got. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. ???? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Because this thread is about Chavez and Venezuela. |
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DemDem07 (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. They are not sourcing themselves. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Right. You make my point for me. |
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DemDem07 (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. That's just your opinion. |
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DemDem07 (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Did you read the OP at all? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Yes, I did. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Don't waste your time. He is immune to any argument that does not... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. RCTV should be shut down, but I disagree with how Chavez did it. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why are you even bothering? The people who are foolish |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. And watch the Chavez haters obfuscate. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I prefer a word that rhymes with obfuscate. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. ? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. Chavez waited FIVE YEARS to get even? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. No FAIR! We want to believe CNN, AP, and the WaPo! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. aka, water carriers for BushCo! Chavez is a dictator |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. If they were complicit in the coup |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. They are turning it into a public access station |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. That's the question the Chavez criticizers are bringing up. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. That's the issue these Chavez threads should be focused on. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. and there are already |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. The last paragraph says it all |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. The US media would just as resoundingly condemn any other instance of censorship ... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Peru and Uraguay aren't sitting on huge amounts of oil |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
75. I was unable to find any info on the stations in Peru or Uruguay. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't think it's right to indict a network... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Yep. The government should have proceeded as this one would: |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. I see FAIR and Mr. McElwee make no mention of the government take over. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Um, because it hasn't happened? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. "Globovision is being put on notice." Yeah that's the problem |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Seems kind of weak, doesn't it? We will have to see what happens. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
53. A very similar coup did occur In the US and nothing happened. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. OMFG do NOT bring that elephant into this room. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. Thanks, High Plains. K&R |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. doesn't pass the smell test, as some of Chavez's other actions do not. nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Depends on who's |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
67. Good for Chavez.. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
69. With USAID and NED and all their $$$ down there, you know |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. The only really fair and democratic way to allot broadcasting frequencies-- |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. thank you! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-30-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
77. So in other words... |
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