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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:52 AM
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Anyone seen the tally on the Resolution?
I saw several Cons speak in favor of it yesterday, but only a handful. Have yet to see my Rep. Biggert ( :puke: -IL ) come to the podium and announce she's following her leader, as usual. Also, are there any Democrats voting against the Resolution?

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:56 AM
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1. I did see one dem say yesterday that they were going to vote no
It was a guy, but for the life of me, I can't remember his name.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:15 AM
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5. I saw one from GA- perhaps it was the same one?
I hope so, anyway. Hope we don't have 2 dems ...
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:23 AM
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6. Could be
I wondered where the threads were about the hearings yesterday, then I saw you had them in GD-P. I felt so lonely watching all day by myself. :cry: Why did you guys move them over there without leaving a crumb trail for me? :cry: ;)
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:30 AM
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8. awww, hugs Sydnie
:grouphug:

We had one or two going here in GD. I ended up having to leave early afternoon. Still haven't seen any of the Democrats give a speech saying they don't support it, but have heard that it's expected there will be a few.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:06 AM
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9. I think I heard that Walter Jones (formerly Freedom fries R-NC) controlled time for OUR side
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 11:08 AM by ncrainbowgrrl
Now how's THAT for a 180?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:58 AM
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2. My local paper said 40-60 Republics could vote for it
Said the GOP hoped for party unity when it came to more serious measures like funding cutbacks/restrictions.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:07 AM
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3. can you imagine the arm twisting and black mailing that will take place when vote for funding is up?
gees.. I bet you could take those (R's and D's for that matter)who vote against the surge, then subtract those same R's and D's against de-funding will be the sum of those who got pressured (so to speak). Maybe a few do believe the surge is wrong and mistakenly think de-funding would hurt the troops that are there, but the majority of them REALLY know that isn't the case. They aren't as stupid as they pretend to be sometimes.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:14 AM
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4. This is where we really have to make our voices heard
Writer your legislator and urge them to support the Murtha plan to redeploy troops and restrict funding. Too many times Dems are afraid they'll be called soft on defense if they do something like that.

Make sure you cite precedent for Congressional action:
Can Congress do anything about it? Some have claimed that anything other symbolic action is unconstitutional. That's false. A wide range of legal experts agree there are a range of legal options available to Congress to stop, or place conditions on, any escalation in the war in Iraq. For example, John Yoo, a former Bush administration lawyer and one of the staunchest defenders of executive power, noted that "the power of Congress over the budget was absolute, to such an extent that lawmakers could end the war altogether if they chose." On the other side of the political spectrum, Georgetown University Law Professor Marty Lederman agrees. A new report from the Center for American Progress illustrates that Congress has acted repeatedly over the last 35 years to ensure the conduct of military action would "strengthen American national security and reflect the concerns and will of the American people." Congress has passed bills, enacted into law, that capped the size of military deployments, prohibited funding for existing or prospective deployment, and placed limits and conditions on the timing and nature of deployments.

CAPPING TROOP LEVELS: Congress has historically exercised authority to cap U.S. troop levels in foreign conflicts. In 1974, the Foreign Assistance Act "established a personnel ceiling of 4000 Americans in Vietnam within 6 months of enactment and 3000 Americans within one year." In 1983, the Lebanon Emergency Assistance Act "required the president to return to seek statutory authorization if he sought to expand the size of the U.S. contingent of the Multinational Force in Lebanon." In 1984, the Defense Authorization Act "capped the end strength level of United States forces assigned to permanent duty in European NATO countries at 324,400." All of this legislation was enacted into law.

RESTRICTING FUNDING: Congress has also restricted funding for certain military operations for U.S. troops. In 1970, the Supplemental Foreign Assistance Law, "prohibited the use of any funds for the introduction of U.S. troops to Cambodia or provide military advisors to Cambodian forces." In 1982, the Defense Appropriation Act "prohibited covert military assistance for Nicaragua." In 1994, Congress restricted the use of funds "for United States military participation to continue Operations Restore Hope in or around Rwanda after October 7, 1994."All of these funding restrictions were enacted into law. Read the report for more examples.

CONDITIONING FUNDING: Alternatively, Congress has authorized military action subject to various conditions. In 1991, Congress authorized the use of force against Iraq but conditioned it on the President "certifying first that means other than war would not result in Iraqi compliance with UN Security Council resolutions." In 2001, President Bush sought authority to respond to the 9/11 attacks to "deter and pre-empt any future acts of terrorism or aggression against the United States." Instead, Congress limited the authority to "all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned authorized committed or aided" the 9/11 attacks.


From the Progress Report 1/9/07 via the Center for American Progress.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:28 AM
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7. Agreed!!! Step one is call 1-800-459-1887 and ask for your Rep!
Ask how whether your Rep will be voting in favor or against the Resolution currently being debated on Iraq. If he/she is voting in favor of it, THANK them for representing you!

If they are not...voice that you are not being represented. Then, see if you can get hold of three friends, who call or email three friends, who call or email three friends...etc. and give them the number to call. Put the pressure on your Representative today while the debate is going on and before the vote is tallied.

Step two: Write your Senators and Representative for the rest and set the stage to keep the pressure on.

Step three: Be sure to put that toll free number in a handy spot!
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