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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:38 PM Original message |
U.S/Iran Strait of Hormuz encounter....threat or not? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a clear threat. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. and we all know we are just ready to start something or this |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. It is a manufactured threat |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. We are a threat wherever we go. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ya the 200 yard thingy kinda makes ya go hmmmm... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I believe that the close proximity may have been due to |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. True, I bet their ROE states to fire only when threatened |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. They were likely speed boats, 30 to 70 ft long, a frigate is about 500 ft long |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Well if the story is BS then it was a setup. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Iran sends its speedboats out all the time, remember the Cornwall incident? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Did not know about that thanks FogerRox |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. 6 Iranian speedboats nabbed those British sailors |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Yeah after reading that I remembered the 'incident'. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Or are lloking to affect the NH primary |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. There message right now is fear fear fear. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. So very true REX, very true. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. 13, not 30....see MY post below |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. 1st deployed in 1977, the US navy never bothered to develop counter measures |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. A couple of issues with that: |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Me-262 1st flew in April 18 1941 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. I got issues with you bloviating crap at DU with little or no support/links |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. What would you like me to link to? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I suggest you provides links for all of your statements. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Try Post #77 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. International waters start at 12 miles right ? |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I feel more are questioning the details, the timing, etc.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. And, el Baredei is going to Iran on the 11th or so. n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. dimson is stoking the fire to start something as usual. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. Hormuz is narrow .. traffic is well regulated, there a lane going in, and a lane going out |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. thanks. Maybe it was a case of something lost in translation? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. "Do Iranians get on the radio and speak English"? |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. For us to believe anything, especially about an Iranian "threat", from the current administration |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I'm not questioning the timing, just the content. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. un named source in the Administration |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. can't help you |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. I tend to agree |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Who was harrassing who? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Assuming the story is accurate, they were probably harassing us. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And what would our reaction be to a large Iranian warship patroling off NYC? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I'm not disputing that |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Our presence there is a provocation - its INTENDED to be. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Sometimes I just laugh |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
99. At 12 miles no one owns the water |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #99 |
135. They are very lucky that they were not fired on |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
113. Large Soviet Warships |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. Bush wants to be in Israel when he starts The Apocalypse. He thinks he's fulfilling prophesy. n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. Do you, do you REALLY think that Iran wants a confrontation with the US Navy? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Right, I bet the Iranians did shoot |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Yeah, right. I can hear them now.... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. LOL, a sense of humor - good |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. At times like these, you either laugh or cry.... |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. I think it's clear we are a threat. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Somebody stop me from kicking the crap out of this OP, its tripe |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Hey, are you still on the road? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. back in NJ, planning some reports on NH, it was freakin Awesome |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. That's great! Look forward to your report! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. It's a little different from the one you describe, I think. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Wiki is weak on military things,,,,try global security .com or |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm heading home now. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Plaese do. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. I did a bit of looking |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. This lacks analytical thinking |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Apparently I am just not smart enough to have a conversation with you |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The articles you cited , not you did you read what I posted? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Yes and when fired at a close enough range it is to fast for the target to get out of the way. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. take this with a grain of salt |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. First you claim that it's "obsolete" and then you suggest that it might not exist? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. it cant be steered ? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Why would you need to steer it? The Shkval wasn't designed to be steered. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Time for the math |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. You're an absolute loon. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Dear right winger, did you forget to change user names ? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Rant away |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. No one else seems to be giving you the time of day |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Go for it |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. MAking extraordinary claims, w/o extraordinary proof is a no no, what proof you started with |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. "Extraordinary"? Like claiming that weapons sold for 10 years don't exist? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I sent an email |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. Additionally that Bosuns locker blog is very deceptive |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Exactly. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. You may wish to read up a little.... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. 'weak. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Jane's disagrees with you.... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. What guidance system is used in this weapon? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Which weapon? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. The ONR appears to be "developing" no ? you said developed |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Not that I can see how that's germaine, but here: |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. it cant be steered ? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Neither can a bullet...which is, essentially, what the Hoot is |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. So how come no one has ever seen one ? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. They';re freakin' SELLING them....at IDEX, no less. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Additionally the blog link you provided in the OP contains many |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
100. Operation Praying Mantis. Required Reading |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. "we"? I don't recall US war with Iran in the 80s. Do you? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. They mined international waters |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. And you love it, huh. Makes you all hard. nt |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, you certainly concede . . . |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. iranian speedboats have been talking pictures of the US NAvy for years |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Taking pictures?! The dastards! |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. I think the story is quite plausible and that a threat may exist |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. A 500 ft Frigate is more likely to accidently CRUSH a 70 ft Iranian speed boat |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I guess I'm not judging threat as amount of damage to US military |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Its been going on for years, choosing this point in time to make it an issue is infantile |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
123. I guess I'm not trying to make this an issue |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. Of course it's a threat! |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. Iran navy is something to worry about |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. WTF.....3 diesel electric subs? Dude this is not 1962 |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. Knee jerk reactions come from our Navy too -- remember the USS Vincennes incident |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
57. after the USS Cole, i bet NO boats don't get within miles of our warships |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Apparently that sort of logic doesn't come into play with the author of the OP |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. So you don't believe the Iranian boats were ay 200 yards? |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. Bush has little time left....must get started on Iran... now or never. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
64. the Iranians had boats not Warships. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Well, a 30 to 70 ft speedboat with RPG racks welded on the side |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #65 |
122. small-caliber weapons |
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I work for workers (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
133. A few years back the military lost an invasion war game to an enemy using speed boats |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
68. The Iranians may be doing to us exactly what we did to Iraq. Trolling. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
72. We are a bigger threat to Iran than they are to us |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
88. Iran just embarrassed us badly, and that's all they were trying to do. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. By not shooting them with 5" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Firing on Iranian vessels in international waters is a great way to start an idiotic war. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Approaching a war ship |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. It appears none of the US ships hada 5" gun |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. The MK45 |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. My bad, the Port Royal has the Mk 45 |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. I guess you have no problem with this... if they did it to us off the coast of NY it'd be terrorism. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Like the soviets did |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
112. what would we do if another country had a couple of carrier battle groups off our coast? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Like the Soviets used to do? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I would attack the carrier groups with speed boats |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. We did what Iran did: send aircraft or ships to intercept or shadow intruder |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. Seen the vid. They are lucky that fishies |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. It was Norfolk, it was off the coast of Iran |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
127. The spread of Hooters is a bigger threat. |
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anastasiatwo (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
132. Clear Threat? Where is your authority |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
134. The voice over sounds like a guy calling a girlfriend on the way over for a visit?? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. I thought maybe it was Borat. nt |
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