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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:59 AM Original message |
*** Official Senate Judiciary Committee DOJ Hearing-Waterboarding*** |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Going to the committee hearing now |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. What time will it start? n/t |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. 10am EST, right now |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. starting now, need 1 more rec |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
99. # 10 accomplished. Check out the new design online at C-SPAN |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ah, the smell of oversight in the morning! n/t |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Don't get your hopes up. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
44. Oh, I've seen the lab films ... but I'm too active for despair. I remember |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. Leahy testifying |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
8. Leahy speaking. No demonstrations, for or against, for any positions |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. speaking on the damages done over the last 7 years (Leahy) |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Leahy - the complicity of the justice department |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Leahy - the costs have been enormous (to the rule of law, etc) |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Now speaking of the secret "legal" memos |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. mentioning the CIA interrogation tapes |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. and that's why Bush/Cheney SHOULD BE prosecuted (Me) |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. Talking about the administration thinking they are above the law |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. Called Gonzo a "crisis of leadership" |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Can we get 1 more rec? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
18. Leahy going OFF on waterboarding being torture for hundreds of years |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
19. Specter up |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
21. Specter speaking now: "you brought a new tone to the" DOJ |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Now saying the standard and all too often repeated "no one is above the law" |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. "waterboarding should be banned" IT IS ALREADY BANNED |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yup, he left that part out |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. Solly, I'm getting the feeling that we are talking to ourselves |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. lol! But you're great to talk to, so it's all good! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Awww, thanks |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I'm here too. . . n/t |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yay. I was feeling a little lonely in here. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. YAY!!!!! |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Thanks for carrying on while I let the dog out |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
113. Who? Who? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. LMAO! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. Waterboarding is a violation of international law, but the President may use his article 2 powers |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I know, right! the idea that "torture can be Constitutional" is just plain bullshit |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
30. NO...it is NOT a "complex subject". NO TORTURE. PERIOD. EVER. |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
32. Thank you for your excellent "reporting" |
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ncrainbowgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Agreed! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Thanks. You start to wonder when you don't get feedback |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
33. Muk's posture is defensive already. . .n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
36. He's being sworn in now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
37. Mukasey being sworn in |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Starting already - I've only been here a short period of time |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
39. Muk's opening statement now |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
42. First thing out of his mouthy?.. "I've been here less than 3 months |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
45. "The interests of the Executive branch & leg are in tension |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. The only interests of the Exec Branch is for them to keep their asses out of jail! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
46. must provide retro immunity |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
47. Mukasey opens up defending the unitary executive in cloaked |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Speaking on water boarding...LOL now claiming waterboarding is not |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. NO, you torture enabler, "reasonable" people can not disagree |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
48. Doing G's bidding: Asking for swift passage of FISA bill |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
50. k and r - with deep appreciation |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
51. He says waterboarding isn't an "authorized" technique.. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. Hmmm, trying to say that waterboarding is not part of the current program |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
53. "waterboarding is not and may not be currently used" . still not saying |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
55. He claims it is NOT an easy question. . . |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Let's waterboard him and see if it gets any easier for him. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
56. Calls it a highly classified program |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
57. He doesn't see circumstances today that would require an answer |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
58. I can't wait until the questioning begins |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
59. Leahy now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
60. Leahy up |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
61. brings up McConnels.. "If it was done to me = torture" statement |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
63. Is waterboarding an AMERICAN illegal? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
64. Mentions that McConnell said that WatBrd is torture, and he doesn't understand |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
66. I can't answer BECAUSE I'm the AG. . oh brother |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
67. Damn, "I'm the attorney general and they aren't, they are just expressing a view" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
68. HEY - ask him under what circumstances it WOULD be legal. . . |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. Leahy: State Department, Army, international, etc thinks it is torture |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
70. And the danger to OUR soldiers when THEY"RE captured? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. (good smackdown Senator!) |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
71. Hear that? Mukasey is using Bush's line...that they don't have rights |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
72. Going into FISA and the telephone bills |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
73. Now Leahy bringing up unpaid FBI phone bills.... HA! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. apparently a "clerical error". . giggle |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
75. If its that important, why did we screw up and not pay the bills and get phone lines cut off |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
77. Mukasey is much smoother than Gonzo |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
78. Muk's not "looking into it".. he delegated apparently... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
79. Mukasey is chapping my ass red |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
80. He claims to be "hands off" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
81. Oooo. . looking into his personal finances! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
82. He's worried about corporations being destroyed?? |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
83. Well, well |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
84. Arlen up |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
85. We're looking at the problem |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
86. Asking basically must the President obey national and international statutes? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
87. Somebody needs an enhanced attitude adjustment |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. NO..and it isn't NOW unlawful...it has been unlawful for years and years and years |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Damn...impeach Mukasey and smack everyone who allowed him to be AG |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
88. Arlen reading a statement by a former ?AG or assistnt AG |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
89. Is there a ligit arguement that the Pres has "article 2 powers" for torture |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
90. Again, torture is illegal in America |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
91. Muk "can't imagine this pres doing that" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
93. Arlen says "Oh yes he did" |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
94. Arlen asking |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
95. Muk not addressing if * is in violation of statutes, just says not going forward |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Original message |
Muk not addressing if * is in violation of statutes, just says not going forward |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
96. Muk is muffling the answer. . i.e. not answering |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
97. "We're not getting very far with this so now we'll go to the immunity issure" |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
100. Flat refusal, |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
101. Talking about order about tape destruction |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Muk says that he did not see the order, and not sure if they can appeal |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
102. This bastard won't answer anything. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
103. Judge Kennedy re destroyed tapes... Muk "hasn't seen the order" |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
105. Now we know where all the oil is going |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
106. I'm becoming physically ill listening to this |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
107. Explain to me again why this guy was approved??? n/t |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Because |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
108. Waterboarding -- Spanish Inquisition-approved enhanced interrogation technique |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
109. Arlan - Why shouldn't the WT be considered by the judiciary |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Damn, Muk's answer is that because then everybody would know |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
111. Thread #2 up!! |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
112. Sonofabitch. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
114. Kennedy is asking "Would waterboarding be Torture?" M: "I remember studying Latin..." |
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