Reply #137: Ya know...I don't think tombstoning this guy was really very fair! [View All]

[RapidCreek]

The dude wasn't being a prick....he was just expressing his point of view. Come one people....let's not get too pissy here. It's good practice to learn how to debate a cat who isn't simply spouting inane Rushisms. We don't really know who or what party Grant is affiliated with....suffice it to say that he offered arguments that were much more powerful than those espoused by a few of the long standing Republicrat members we have on this board. You know...reletively speaking. A guy whose name starts with a C comes to mind.

Let's face it. There are many Democrats who are fans of Capatilism...I myself am one (well actually I am an independent now). The problem is....is that many people have glommed on to the bastardized revisionist definition of Capitalism manufactured by Ayn Rand. This is a natural approach for those who seek to propagate the right wing agenda....it is a sad state of affairs for us progressives however, and points to the fact we often times make ourselves the victim of a scarecrow created by our own willing and defensive ignorance. I would love to know, just how many of us who claim that Capitalism is evil have actually read, studied and researched Adam Smiths treatise to Capitalism, The Wealth of Nations. Here is a link for you to check out if you have not. I highly recommend that you visit the site, as it will give you some serious ammunition to use against those who irreverently sport "Adam Smith ties" and use his name in defense of the robber baron mentality.

Through debate we may actually inspire others, who have previously remained quite, to come forward and share their thoughts, like the Japanese fellow who contributed to this thread. In addition, proving ones points expands the knowledge base we all have to work from, when fighting right wingers. This guy had a set of stones, I'll give him that. He went up against a group who quite obviously disagreed with most everything he had to say. He was a bit misdirected in his thinking, in my opinion, but for the most part maintained a civil discourse through out. In responding to him, I went back through my notes and writing on Capitalism, Demming, TQM and Japan and realized that I had forgotten very important information which could be quite effectively used in support of our stance on the issues this thread addresses.

I for one am a little disappointed you excommunicated Grant. If you stop by again and read this thread Grant. Sorry they tombstoned you...it wasn't my idea! It'd be real funny if we found out Grant was actually Joseph Lieberman, eh?

RC