Reply #124: yes, I've noticed that [View All]

[iverglas]

And people claim not to believe credible reports of facts and events for the strangest reasons.

McQueen was a groundskeeper, the other guy was an orderly ... manual labourers and therefore not worthy of belief (and if you haven't figured it out yet, McQueen was NOWHERE said to have been working at groundskeeping during the week AFTER the hurricane, he was reported to have been clearing wind damage on the day BEFORE the hurricane hit) ... and now we have a graduate student in genetics who volunteered to stay in a danger zone to protect his university's lab, who then volunteered to assist the professionals caring for patients in jeopardy at the university's hospital in the midst of it all ... and he might be something of a glory seeker. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

And Charmaine Neville was ... what was she again? An African-American woman? Who says that she DID report the sexual assault she suffered on the abandoned streets of New Orleans at the earliest opportunity?

There are just all sorts of reasons to claim to disbelieve things. Including ones as ludicrous as rescue helicopter pilots not reporting (if such is the case -- how the hell would we know?) being shot at in a disaster zone while in the full throes of full-out rescue attempts. Sheesh, I keep thinking that bureaucracy instead of rescue was what we were denouncing.

Yes, they should have got out the best china tea service and taken a break to sit down and write that incident up, tout de suite. Certainly by now, at least, rescue helicopter pilots having all been sent off for some much needed R&R.

Apparently, quite a few of us are not prepared to swallow just anything. Thank heaven for that!

And some of us continue to strain at gnats, while churning out the purple prose. That bit reminded me of something I was reading in the Communist Worker or some such thing this morning. No offence to Communist Workers, but they do tend to get a bit over-the-top exclamatory and exhortatory ...

I'm not seeing further discussion of these issues between us actually being likely to constitute discussion. If you would like to come up with an actual reason to disbelieve the various reports that you exult in people not believing, something other than insinuations about the character of the witnesses whose words are reported that YOU have no basis for making, and assertions of fact that YOU have no basis for making (like that one about McQueen having spent the week clearing trees), I'll be listening.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to be unsurprised at reports that the abandonment of the disaster victims resulted in some of them being criminally victimized, and put some of them in the position of having to make decisions no one should ever have to make.

Oh -- you have figured that bit out, right?

That the reason the doctor gave for the decisions she made was that she did not have sufficient morphine to be able to continue relieving the patients' pain until they were rescued, and she chose to use the morphine she did have to end their lives sooner, rather than leave them to suffer in agony without relief when she had used it all up and no rescue had come?

Can't imagine why I'd find that beyond belief, myself.