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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:11 AM
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77. love that hardhead
couldn't have stated it any clearer, and yet it still doesn't get through. funny isn't it?

duh, criminals don't abide by laws, no kidding. but the laws are there to prevent law abiding citizens to do it. that's their purpose. and the other purpose of law is to have grounds for heavy prosecution of people who disobey stated law. sure they break it, but they are going to be fully prosecuted.

remember what the state does: war, taxation, law, prosecution, punishment (along with oodles of positive things on the side) are part of the nature of government. we *need* someone to be the *bad guy* to legally do all the unpleasant, nasty stuff we don't want to do. *that's where the state comes in* they place the boundaries of conduct and the punishments that will follow if boundaries ar crossed.

so what about the criminals. they've always existed. there's *always* someone willing to cross the line. that's why we have a state to stop them. but in order to stop the state from being a capricious overlord a concept called *legality* appears. this concept gives open license for what cannot be done by individuals to be done by the state instead. if the *legality* of the state deteriorates by capriciousness eventually the individuals dismiss the authority of the state (ignore it's legal power) and abandon it in favor of a new one.

so saying "but criminals can do it!!" is just a childish argument. so what if they can do it? they are going to be *severely* punished for it. this is the basis of ALL LAW. we just don't want YOU to do it. and if you do YOU KNOW WHAT's COMING. ahh, the complexity of law... please this is civics 101. arguments like this shouldn't even be popping up. we as the 'leaders of the free world' should have such basics readily known.
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