Reply #112: I'm not certain that you do. [View All]

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I'll use your word. I'm peppering this thread with posts about how you can't have a "free" trade zone where labor doesn't have the same freedoms as capital.

You don't like me because of some (Edwards vs Clark) shit that happened a long time ago, I think, so you're trying to call what I'm saying "neo-liberal" when you know it isn't.

I didn't say freely mobile labor alone will give us an EU type commone market. I'm saying that the EU will work to deliver wealth to people who work rather than to just capital (which will create more total social wealth) because it gives labor the same mobility as capital. I'm saying NAFTA won't deliver much wealth to anyone but capital because it doesn't give labor the same mobility as capital.

What did I say that makes you think I'm backing down or that I'm saying it's more complex? I'm not backing down. What I'm doing is providing further examples of how the EU takes seriously workers rights and competitiveness, whereas NAFTA doesn't.

If you want to talk about ALL the vicissitutdes of the EU, I'm ready for it. I started with immigration, but if you want to talk about other things the EU does in the same spirit as allowing a mobile labor force, let's talk about it.