Reply #68: I love the way you think omega minimo :-) [View All]

[ElectroPrincess]

If we (progressives) let the RW nut cases outlaw abortion and get their teeth into prohibiting ANY federal support of birth control, I think that the younger women ... those who are proud to call themselves ... girlie <shudder in utter disappointment and disbelief) will get a taste of those of us women who fought the odds in the 1960s and 1970s.

I busted my butt and kept my moral behavior beyond reproach as an Army Cadet and a Woman Officer in the late 70s and early 80s. The younger women today have no idea how women in the workplace were OPENLY shunned in male fields during that time. It was nothing to have a troop say to me, "I'm not used to following a woman, and I'm not going to start now."

All I'm saying is that I didn't train myself physically to run a 6 minute mile and tolerate all kinds of hyper-focus in the US Army for the women after me to return to ENJOY being submissive to men. And that is exactly what "girlie girl" means.

No, let's not segregate the sexes? It was only during the 1970s that the Army integrated training. The Marine Corps still refuses to train women and men together at boot camp or OCS.

IMO If you want to encourage a return of a horrible past - forced female submission - then create a women's only forum. If we as "a group" - don't fight to keep ourselves INTEGRATED into every male aspect of society, we will be set aside in our own little corner (Forum). And that one area will LATER be "the only one" allowed for us.

Please don't forget, women still are not treated fairly in many male oriented fields.

Nope, no way do I personally want to separate myself from society.

IMO, it's the FULL INTEGRATION of women in EVERY aspect of society is the answer. We can help society appreciate positive "feminine" characteristics such as nurturing and mediation is the answer ... much better than "bar fights and starting wars." ;)