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Last week I revived an email message from a Republican moron that works in the same facility. This message was a list of school violence issues where students were killed by others and then proclaiming that is was all caused because there was no prayer allowed in schools.

On Friday I responded with:
You know, I don't ever remember praying in school!
I went to public school in a small protestant community in rural Iowa.
If anyone was going to do praying in public schools in the 60's I think it would have happened there. This little town of 800 had 6 churches.
We said the pledge of allegiance every morning, but no prayers.
This is more propaganda the Reich wing fundamentalist are using to push their religion on every soul.
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This was a set up and probably occupied his entire weekend (HA! HA!) He responded first thing this morning with the most clouded view on the subject and others I have ever read.
Read and laugh! or weep, because this is just how dumb people are these days.
Remember this all started because we don't pray everyday in school:


The reply:
Funny, I grew up in the 50's and 60's and I don't ever remember anyone suing governments to have Nativity scenes removed from city parks; I don't remember anyone suing to have the words "under God" removed from the pledge; I don't remember anyone suing when even a public school football team said a prayer before games; I don't remember parents suing schools when their unruly kid got paddled for being unruly; I don't remember rampant pregnancy out of wedlock but I DO remember that it was rare and not openly accepted by society. The solution to such problems in those days was not condoms and abortion - the solution was to wait until marriage. And- surprise of surprises- when people did that most kids actually grew up with BOTH a father and mother ! Of course, back then the words "for better or worse, in sickness and health" actually meant something when two people recited their marriage vows. Kids with drinking and drug problems in school were rare and authority was generally respected. No, it's much better now ! By golly, if kids want to have kids and gays want to go out and spread aids, who are WE to object ? Our job as compassionate Americans is to go out there and clean up the mess they leave behind- find the cure for aids, supply the mothers with welfare money, give the kids their condoms, and make abortion easily acceptable to everyone ! Boy, those solutions sure have worked, huh ? Sexual disease is almost non-existent, every kid has two parents, gays are successfully raising kids and never spending time attending funerals of their friends who have died from aids, right ??? They have a right and , after all, this is America where our laws are bigger than God Himself. And our schools ? Wow, the kids are SO much better adjusted now that we have eliminated the abusive paddling and discipline in our schools- just ask that Cleveland teacher who got hit in the head by a chair that some student threw last week (I suppose the parents of that kid were denied a condom when they were in school or this would never have happened ! DAMN those reich wing fundamentalists!). In another time, not so long ago, America accepted the idea that God was bigger than our nation. We weren't perfect to be sure and we had lots of problems. BUT, these questions of prayer in school, separation of church and state, etc. rarely came up. And it wasn't a Catholic thing or Jewish thing or Protestant thing - it was the general basis of our law and civility in this country. Nowadays, when Bush or anyone else defends what made this country strong, what was pretty much accepted and embraced by the majority of this country, he is labeled as a right wing religious fanatic - a nutcase trying to foist on this country the very thing that made this country strong and free. Now, to recognize that God is bigger than even some law that some court justice misinterpreted, makes one a "Reich wing fundamentalist" ???? This country, UNTIL RECENT TIMES, has always recognized that that we as a people will be subject to no one- no king, no dictator, no military leader- UNDER GOD ; THAT means we recognize that ONLY God is superior to man. Sadly, there are those in this country who are pushing- quite successfully I might add- to make American law superior to God's law. In effect making our laws and our decisions to be our God, relegating God Himself to second class status. We are now paying, and will continue to pay the price if we continue to usurp His authority over us. In my lifetime I have been a Catholic, a Methodist, and now a Presbyterian. Bush never objected to any of my decisions, nor did anyone else; I am currently painting the condo of an agnostic. He freely shares his views, believes as he does, and Bush has not even sent him a letter to convince him otherwise. But, my agnostic friend and I have some pretty animated, open, and honest discussion about our different viewpoints and, so far, Bush, nor any other "Reich wing fundamentalist" has called to encourage me to make sure this agnostic changes his thinking. If Bush is pushing his religion on us, he is doing a pretty poor job of it !