Reply #7: this has been the subject of debate recently in the UK [View All]

[McKenzie]

the debate brought some creepy bastards out of the woodwork, make no mistake. It is something that turns my guts inside out.

It's a regular fetish in this country; the French wryly call it "The English Disease" which is an appropriate description of what is a disgusting thing to do to anyone against their will. If consenting adults are into it that's their business, but that's about as far as it should go. Period.

btw recently d/loaded a vid of London Calling with the Clash playing on a boat going down the Thames...wonderful...boom-boom-boom-boom "London calling..."