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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:46 AM
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27. Not being any sort of expert
with any sort of faith in manufactured numbers vis a vis real value, the "feeling" I have or intuition gleaned from many posts on DU- forget MSM sappy murk- is that we are on a greased fast track. The lessons learned from 1929 are being exploited and ruined by Bush early in this new depression. Hoover had years leaving people in the palpitating swamp of ruin before FDR and the War arrived. Obama is on the cusp of trying reinstate New Deal values that are currently on autopilot big time with a derelict pilot at the controls.

In other words years of massive depression have yet to be experienced and the wads of cash are being expended up front with less impact on the future than New Deal style programs involving at least laying the groundwork for future infrastructure. ALL the people at the top, with no exception among those with influence or actual power, are trapped and participating in this dynamism. What I hear is similar to the appalling "debates" and ruinous or inadequate actions regarding a physical reality problem- climate change.

Numbers are numbers, not intractable occupied foreign lands or the weather. The battle being waged there is not very comforting regarding our ability to handle REAL world problems. Namely the money is being tossed about in total disequilibrium like it was an actual ship on an actual sea(Panic?). No one is supposed to win or change the system or hold too many to account. On no level is that working but the game goes on hoping to level off and raise the ships again on a fundamentally unchanged global capitalist dominance. Emerging populist governments, most notably in Latin America are virtually ignored, until and unless they clear the markets and replace the bankrupt powers that be. We are far from that here, so far that populist progressivism here seems as fanciful in its bowing to the current system as any discredited myth out there.

It is more likely that building for the future is still to be done in getting people control and reason based on reality not market based patriotic myth for a future beyond the ruins. Already the ugly head of "bipartisanship" is rearing its head to turn progressive possibility and responsibility into the sickening image of NYS political deadlock in a time of utmost crisis. The "power bloc" of the DINO RINO center, savagely bypassed by Bush, is already moving to nicely destroy the present and the future. This is the best we can do now, but we are not in the best of all possible worlds- simply one that we can take a role in- an immense and hopefully not temporary big improvement from Bush neo-fascism.

This is going to be a roller coaster from Hell until something besides the discredited markets prevails
or the system dismally, tyrannically reasserts its mad parallel path to a disintegrating world environment. The front priming intended to ward off the worst effects of a depression repeat may create another historical creature altogether, one defrauded of good future groundwork and evasive of evident
necessity for big reforms. It may fare no better than Iraq and the New American Empire, the staked Nosferatu of our age.
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