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Thu Dec-02-04 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #278 |
361. I'm only kidding myself. |
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You on the other hand seem to have taken the emotionally unstable position where you beleive you know what is best for all people. This is why you responded so violently against the Pink Pistols. You really beleive that there is nobody in the GLBT community that believes in gun rights and it's all just there to trick you? Get real. Of course there is going to be gun rights supporters in a community that is threatened daily by bigots.
The idea that there is no such thing as a community right comes from the founding fathers directly. Not all political debate is contemporary, most debates are older than you or I. The distinction that there is no such thing as a community right does not come from the NRA. I dislike the NRA more than I dislike gun control organizations because at least gun control groups don't disguise their intentions.
The founding fathers believed that the natural state of man is that we have infinite natural individual rights. That means when they wrote this document they believed our rights come from nature or god, not the government so they wrote in addition to the Constitution, a document that outlines what the government is allowed to do by the people from which the government is derived, a set of documents called the Bill of Rights which are restrictive clauses meaning the government is restricted from legislating on the natural rights the founding fathers believed we had.
Personally I don't care what the founding fathers thought about the nature of rights. They were just ambitious men and they made mistakes. All human ideas are fallible, mine especially, which is why it is dangerous to worship any of them as you would a God. I don't believe there are such thing a a natural right which is why man keeps gravitating to live under despotic governments that guarantee no rights. This is why I require a government that protects my rights and if that government infringes on what I think are rights I should have there will be trouble.
The answer to your quiz is D, but again, the point of the preamble is that it shows that the Bill of Rights is restrictive, not just a set of guidelines for our government.
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