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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:15 PM
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5. Israel wants peace - that is obvious despite your headlines - in the actual stories facts the PA 's
problem with peace is obvious.

The PA/Hamas rejects a total truce as offered by Israel, and only offers no rockets - something offered/tried before with no real change in PA rocket attacks. But the headline writer puts this as "Israel rejects peace offer from Hamas".


"Israel rejects peace plan by Spain, France and Italy" was not a rejection of a peace plan - it rejection of an undefined immediate ceasefire. It called for a ceasefire (but we have all heard how a PA/Hamas government ceasefire can not be expected to hold back the legitimate anger of individual citizens - haven't we?). It also called for a Palestinian unity government - and now we have that. We do not have that exchange of prisoners that it called for, nor either the talks between Israel's prime minister and the Palestinian Authority president nor an international mission in Gaza to monitor a "ceasefire". Did Hamas ever agree to international monitors in Gaza that would stop the rockets and kidnapping - or even the having as guests the usual UN type monitoring where UN folks rarely note and publicize any PA breaking of that ceasefire?

The Iranian president does indeed "deny the holocaust" - he accepts Jews died - everybody dies in war - but he rejects the special effort and the success of the effort of the Nazi murderers. The gas pipes too small and all the other crap was long ago disproved. The only Iranian point is to say "why feel anything but hate toward Israel" as they push for the end of the Jewish State of Israel, and while like the Saudis, pushing for the death of Jews, teaching children that Jews are the scum of the earth.

The Arabs are the ones that refused a fair two state solution - namely Taba. And Now Geneva has put details into Taba - but I do not hear Hamas saying that it is even a start on the road to a two state solution. Instead Hamas rejects the secular state, Hamas rejects the Jewish State of Israel, and Hamas vows war forever.

The new unity government agreement is interesting in that it may be an indicator that Hamas is willing to go to a two State solution - and I think should be tested on that basis.

Olmert's governments response has been that it is pointless to test - and that Israel will wait until the PA under Hamas starts to act like a government - rather than terrorists - and actually states that it honors - not just respects - prior agreements, including the two state solution.

I think Hamas might be signaling that while it can't say "two-state solution" it might be ready to act like that was the direction for the future. Israel appears to think that that view is "wishful thinking.

I do not know if they are correct.

I do know that it has been the Arabs that have rejected any 2 state solution that includes one of the states as the Jewish State of Israel.
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