Reply #10: Papau, what are you doing? [View All]

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Do you even stop to examine the links you use? Good grief.
The text of the excerpts you printed don't stand up to analysis, and are selectively biased.
Let me tell you something about "honestreporting". The first time I came across it last year I thought "great, a site dedicated to honest reporting. Yeah, like Fox news is "fair and balanced".
Turns out "honestreporting" is a far right, zionist propaganda site with ties to the Israeli govt. and information ministry. They have the dishonest effrontary to call themselves "honestreporting", a fraud and cover meant to do ONE THING...decieve the readers. That's nasty. That's....manipulative and exploitative. The wikipedia article is based on the distorted, biased, dishonest reporting of honestreporting.com and Threatswatch. I'll get into threatswatch in a moment.
Your selective extractions actually reference an article by counterpunch (that must've been a mistake). Here it is. It paints a genuinely accurate picture of the real Hudna and peace which Israel rejects.
http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery08252003.html

I invite any reader to read it. It's revelatory and spot on. I know this because when I evaluate an article I rely on numerous other, corroborative articles which I've read from various wide-ranging sources over a period of years, along with personal experience. I think I know what you did Papau, you found these sites and were so delighted to find opinions that mirrored and reinforced your own that you failed to check them out thoroughly.

Now who is honestreporting?
"HonestReporting has been criticised over its aggressive approach to media reports. In September 2006, HonestReporting issued a critique of the South African newspaper, the Mail&Guardian, for publishing an opinion article by a South African government minister that was critical of Israel. HonestReporting took issue <4> with contents of the article and encouraged its' readers to write to the newspaper. The Mail&Guardian received what it called a "barrage of hysterical invective" full of "bigotry and anti-democratic instincts". HonestReporting has been criticized by the Guardian as a "pro-Israeli lobby".<1>, which in turn is monitered by HonestReporting for what it alleges is the papers tendency for taking a one-sided anti-Israel line.

Yarden Frankl (Senior Editor) worked for ten years as a senior aide to Congresswoman Nita Lowey of New York and as the Strategic Affairs Lobbyist for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honest_Reporting

AIPAC, which is not actually a mere "lobbying group" (our nation's 2nd most powerful), but an agent of a foreign power...it along with the ADL and other so-called Jewish advocacy groups are riddled with intelligence agents, and AIPAC is about to be reamed in trials involving the passing of secret documents to Israel by spies, tied in with Doug Feith and other dual-citizenship zionist neo-cons within the presidents staff and the Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon, the group that lied us into the Iraq war.

Who is Rabbi Ephraim Shore?
A fiercly pro-Israel, militant zionist.....

"Rabbi Ephraim Shore (President) took over HonestReporting in 2000 after it was founded by a group of students in England. In late 2001, he organized an independent USA board of directors and established HonestReporting as a registered non-profit (501c3) organization. He is also a co-director of Hasbara Fellowships."

What is the Hasbara Fellowship?

"Hasbara Fellowships is an organization that brings students to Israel and trains them to be "effective pro-Israel activists on their campuses". Based in New York, it was started in 2001 by Aish HaTorah in conjunction with the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Activists trained by Hasbara Fellowships have been involved in several notable campus demonstrations. In 2002, Hasbara Fellowships organized a rally at the National Student Palestinian Conference at the University of Michigan. <4> In 2007, Hasbara Fellowships members at Brandeis University protested against former US President Jimmy Carter's book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara_Fellowships

So the Hasbara fellowship and the honestreporting president are tied in with the Israeli govt.s intelligence and disinformation ministry. So much for "honestreporting".
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Who is Threatswatch?
3 guys, all extreme rightwing military nutcases and republican activists and lobbyists, 2 of which who are tied together through tellicomminications corruption. I read some of their stuff, it was offensive and uncomfortably bigoted IMO towards Muslims and Arabs.
Leo Giacometto, President, Bill Roggio and Marvin Hutchens

Who is Leo Giacometto?
Lt. Colonel in the Army reserves, Rightwinger, pro-Iraq war....

"It doesn't get much more devious than this. Last month, on the 30 of October, Democratic Senator Max Baucus of Montana held a little "NASCAR Fundraiser" in Atlanta, Georgia. The cause and locale were far from Big Sky Country. Attendees of the benefit forked over $2,500 a piece to eat breakfast at the lavish Ritz-Carlton Hotel and spend an afternoon at the Atlanta Motor Speedway.

The brains behind the peddle-to-the-metal fundraiser belonged to Leo Giacometto, a sleazy Republican operative who served as Montana Republican Senator Conrad Burns' Chief of Staff during the latter part of the 1990s. Giacometto was one of the key architects of the 1996 Telecommunications Act and has since enjoyed the turnstile environment of Washington politics and now heads up Gage LLC, a corporate lobbying firm based in DC."

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank11092005.html

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_159.shtml

Extensive corruption of Giacometti:

"Burns Formed Non-Profit With Lobbyist, Took Taxpayer Funded Trips To Benefit Lobbyist Clients. In 2003, Conrad Burns and former staffer turned lobbyist Leo Giacometto formed a non-profit group called the U.S. Asia Network. While run out of Giacometto’s firm, Gage, the network’s events are paid for by cellular phone and communications giant Qualcomm. In 2004, Burns led a trade delegation to Kazakhstan that was arranged by Giacometto’s lobbying firm and included almost exclusively Giacometto clients and Qualcomm lobbyists. < Helena IR, 3/5/06; Billings Gazette, 5/29/04>

Burns History Of Racist Remarks Makes Him The Poster Child For Republicans Being Out Of Touch. Conrad Burns history of racial insensitivity is legendary. It includes telling civil rights lobbyists he was going to a “slave auction,” agreeing it was “a hell of a challenge” living with “niggers” in Washington, calling Arabs “ragheads,” and telling a woman worried about losing her job to outsourcing that she could stay home and be a mother. All too often, Burns has backed up his racial insensitivity with actions, including being the only member of the Senate to oppose the Martin Luther King Jr., Equal Protection of Voting Rights Act of 2002. < AP, 12/18/02; Great Falls Tribune, 10/26/05>"

http://www.dscc.org/news/roundup/20060404_burns/index.htm

"Leo Giacometto is to Montana what Jack Abramoff was to Washington, DC. Giacometto was the long-time Chief of Staff for Senator Burns, during which time he was know as the champion staff traveler for going on more junkets than anyone else on the Hill. The tale is that Giacometto abruptly resigned from Burns' office when a Washington Post reporter began looking into complaints from lobbyists concerning Giacometto's habit of running up enormous bar tabs and then sticking them with the bill. So Giacometto became a lobbyist.

But when the Montana GOP need a slush fund to keep operatives happy between campaigns, Leo Giacometto helped set it up and served as Vice President of the Montana Majority Fund. However, Giacometto was fingered in a suspected coverup of the death of House Majority Leader Paul Sliter following a MMF meeting and the press started looking into the organization. The resulting scandal brought down the Administration of then Republican Governor Judy Martz. In this scandal, Giacometto and company were busted for fundraising using the state capitol. Instead of ceasing to use slush funds, they ceased the fundraising and turned to earmarks from Conrad Burns to finance the GOP infrastructure."

http://robertbrigham.blogspot.com/2006/06/john-morrison-and-cultures-of.html

Who is Bill Roggio

"BAGHDAD -- Retired soldier Bill Roggio was a computer technician living in New Jersey less than two months ago when a Marine officer half a world away made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Frustrated by the coverage they were receiving from the news media, the Marines invited Roggio, 35, who writes a popular Web log about the military called "The Fourth Rail" ( http://www.billroggio.com/ ), to come cover the war from the front lines.

"I was disenchanted with the reporting on the war in Iraq and the greater war on terror and felt there was much to the conflict that was missed," Roggio, who is currently stationed with Marines along the Syrian border, wrote in an e-mail response to written questions. "What is often seen as an attempt at balanced reporting results in underreporting of the military's success and strategy and an overemphasis on the strategically minor success of the jihadists or insurgents."

Roggio's arrival in Iraq comes amid what military commanders and analysts say is an increasingly aggressive battle for control over information about the conflict. Scrutiny of what the Pentagon calls information operations heightened late last month, when news reports revealed that the U.S. military was paying Iraqi journalists and news organizations to publish favorable stories written by soldiers, sometimes without disclosing the military's role in producing them

In addition, the military has paid money to try to place favorable coverage on television stations in three Iraqi cities, according to an Army spokesman, Maj. Dan Blanton. The military, said Blanton, has given one of the stations about $35,000 in equipment, is building a new facility for $300,000 and pays $600 a week for a weekly program that focuses positively on U.S. efforts in Iraq. The names of the city and the television station are being withheld because the producer of the show said he and his staff would be seen as collaborators and endangered if identified.

He said he recently began distributing his news releases to military bloggers and organizations such as veterans associations. The Marines also took a more direct approach by inviting Roggio to cover their operations.

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"A thorough review of his work was taken into account before authorizing the embed," said Pool. "Overall, it has worked out really well."

After military officials in Baghdad said Roggio could not be issued media credentials unless he was affiliated with an organization, the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative-leaning research organization in Washington, offered him an affiliation, according to an entry on Roggio's blog. He and two other bloggers launched a new Web site a month ago ( http://threatswatch.com/ )

When news organizations began reporting about the insurgent activity in Ramadi on Dec. 1, Roggio posted "The Ramadi Debacle: The Media Bites on Al Qaeda Propaganda."

On Dec. 15, when Iraqis voted in nationwide elections, Roggio reported from Barwana, a Western town where turnout was far heavier than in Iraq's constitutional referendum held Oct. 15.

"Barwana, once part of Zarqawi self declared 'Islamic Republic of Iraq,' " he wrote, "is now the scene of al-Qaeda's greatest nightmare: Muslims exercising their constitutional right to chose their destiny."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500659.html

A pro-war, rightwing, paid military propagandist. Nice.

Marvin Hutchens is a rightwing ex-military blogger who along with Roggio, is carried regularly on frontpagemag which, along with worldnetdaily, is neo-con entertainment central.

You should exercise more care in your choice of sources.