Reply #3: I am not saying that the conflict is all ABOUT hating Jews [View All]

[LeftishBrit]

I am saying that Jews would be put at very major risk by a 'one state solution' under present circumstances.

And it isn't only about Hamas either; they are just the current leadership, so need to be considered. I don't think Fatah are great either (corrupt; sometimes violent) but they do seem less extreme, more secular, less far-right than Hamas. I think Palestine are badly in need of some completely new leadership but then so are most groups and nations.

It's about what would happen if there were an abrupt 'one-state solution'. Do you honestly think that the Jews would be safe under the circumstances? I might think so if there were ONE Arab state that at the moment gave any, let alone equal, rights to Jews. I don't think that there's something intrinsic to Arab culture that prevents giving equal rights to Jews. But the dominant political attitudes at the moment do. Like there isn't anything *intrinsic* to Western Europaean culture that prevents Jews from having equal rights - and right now we DO have them in Western Europe - but we know what the situation has been at various times in the past (and I'm not even talking JUST about the Nazis here).


'It's about Israeli refusal to allow an entire nation the basic human rights that the majority of humans on the globe takes for granted.'

Well, perhaps part of my whole point is a basic disagreement with part of this sentence. And the part with which I most strongly disagree is not the Israel part - it's the phrase 'the basic human rights that the majority of humans on the globe take for granted'. But *do* they take them for granted? In most parts of the world, many people lack a LOT in the way of basic human rights; in some, they lack virtually any basic human rights. (A very quick glance at the Amnesty International website will give plenty of examples worldwide). Human rights are a very precious and very fragile and rather rare commodity; and the 'one-state solution' here would be lighting a match near a powder-keg, with 'human rights' likely to be one of the first casualties.

(And no, I don't think the current status quo is fair or acceptable either.)