Reply #31: Not so [View All]

[DulceDecorum]

I asked you to tell us WHEN you last received any communication from the local Department of Motor Vehicles concerning those long-gone vehicles to which you have the the title. The vehicles in question are NOT registered and so, for decades, the local DMV has expressed no interest whatsoever in them. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

The DMV keeps a close watch on the OPERATORS of the vehicles in much the same way that the FAA monitors the OPERATORS of aircraft.
Most vehicles on the road today are actually OWNED by a bank. But the bank usually has absolutely no idea where any particular vehicle is at any given time. The bank holds title to the vehicle but it does not actually have physical possession of the vehicle.
You have the title of those vehicles but you do not happen to have the actual vehicle.
I have the receipts but I do not have the gifts I gave away at Christmas.
The title is similar to a receipt in that it demonstrates proof of purchase of certain property. But a title is only a piece of paper.

The operator must register the vehicle before they can legally drive it on the nation's highways. There are taxes which must be paid to the city and the state.
In the US, a plane must be registered with the state and also with the Federal Aviation Administration. Taxes must be paid to the state and probably also the federal government.
The registration of the car is NOT good for ever and neither is the registration of the plane.
The registration can expire.

Take a look at this page for more on the registration of aircraft in the US.
http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/47-index.shtml

Deadbroke says:
But back to airplanes; I can assure you that my Brother owned numerous airplanes during his lifetime and that his widow still has registrations and boxes full of other related paperwork on all his airplanes including those he needed to dismantle to keep the rest of his fleet aflight.
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Using your theory, my Sister-in-Law is the proud owner of dozens and dozens of airworthy real planes.

Not so.
My theory is based on:

Sec. 47.41 - Duration and return of Certificate.
(a) Each Certificate of Aircraft Registration issued by the FAA under this subpart is effective, unless suspended or revoked, until the date upon which --
(1) Subject to the Convention on the International Recognition of Rights in Aircraft when applicable, the aircraft is registered under the laws of a foreign country;
(2) The registration is canceled at the written request of the holder of the certificate;
(3) The aircraft is totally destroyed or scrapped;
(4) Ownership of the aircraft is transferred;
(5) The holder of the certificate loses his U.S. citizenship;
(6) 30 days have elapsed since the death of the holder of the certificate; ....
http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part47-41-FAR.shtml

Your brother is deceased.
It appears that he has been deceased for more than thirty days.
Therefore,
assuming that the planes in question were registered in the US,
the registration of each and every single plane owned by your brother, has expired.

Those planes owned an operated by United Airlines continue
INEXPLICABLY
to have valid registrations
DESPITE
the widespread belief that those particular planes were destroyed on September 11, 2001.