Reply #54: Then gee Wally, explain to me in simple terms [View All]

[MadHound]

How a fire, with a max possible temperature(remember, this is jet fuel, essentially refined kerosene) of 900F can even come close to the needed temperature of 1100F to begin to weaken said structural steel. Also remember that the WTC was built to strict NYC fire codes, which mandate that both towers be finished with fire retardent materials, including carpets, drapes, wall coverings, etc. even to the point that each and every single steel beam be covered with a fire retarding foam like material. Explain to me why, if the fire was such a roaring inferno as you claim, the firefighters on the scene were only calling for three lines for each fire. I'm used to be a fireman, and if you are only calling for three lines, I don't care if they're three inchers, that means that the fire is, can and will be controlled. Also explain to me why such a roaring inferno(as you claim) was pouring out thick black smoke, a sure sign of a fire that is being smothered. And lastly, explain how not just one, not two, but three seperate buildings, damaged in three distinct ways, at three different times all fell virtually straight down into their own footprint. I'll be waiting for that one, since it is a coincedence that has baffled every single engineer that I've spoken with. It is something that is simply unprecendented.

And as far as the planes go, it is a standing order that there are planes on standby at all times, ready to take off in case of some strange odd aerial event. Remember Payne Stewart? When his plane first diverted off course, fighters were up there beside him literally within minutes, and accompanied him until the plane went down. Yet it wasn't until after the planes all crashed did our air defense show up on 911. Why? Who gave the order to for them to stand down? This isn't as trivial as you would like to make it friend, this is a serious breach of the chain, and an outright violation of a standing order. Do you understand how significant that is?

As far as the put orders go, don't you find it the least bit odd that when they started doing the forensic market analysis on them, they traced them back to a former CIA agent, and once they did, they dropped the investigation cold?

Look friend, if you wish to continue to believe the official story, that's fine, perhaps it brings you comfort, or you simply can't grasp the concept of our government attacking its own people. That doesn't mean it can't, and doesn't happen. Many many people were in your shoes concerning the Kennedy assasination also, simply unable to wrap their head around the concept of a conspiracy. But eventually it was shown that the Kennedy assasination was indeed a conspiracy, and I'm sure, given time, 9/11 will be shown to be a LIHOP/MIHOP also. It is simply a matter of time. Until then, we will have to agree to disagree on this one and go our merry ways.