You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #34: Clark was weak in Mich, and there's nothing to suggest he has a ton of... [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:25 AM
Response to Original message
34. Clark was weak in Mich, and there's nothing to suggest he has a ton of...
Edited on Sat Mar-05-05 12:29 AM by AP
...appeal in any the rust belt swing states. (In Mich, he was 5th place with 6.7% in a race that took place at the same time he was pulling thirds in TN and VA). Even though he didn't campaign in IA, people knew he was running, and only 15 out of 13.5K voted for him.

And I know that he dropped out and endorsed Kerry, but there are no bright spots in MN, IN, IL, WI, etc. Eg, MN: 177 votes out of 54,000 cast, on March 2, only ahead of Lieberman. If he got, say, 3,000, I might not be so worried about his appeal there. But MN is a close state Dems can actually win, so you better be sure you're running a candidate whose message says something to Minnesotans (and Wisconsins, and Ohioans, and Michiganders).

I wouldn't want to pick a candidate who was O.K. (according to a questionable measure, which I'll address below) in AZ and NM while sacrificing the midwest.

To put things in perspective about those NM and AZ second places: Kerry got over 100% more votes than Clark in NM, while Dean was only 20% behind Clark.

So, it's not like he was going to do much better than Kerry in NM -- he was half as popular as Kerry, and if Dean only got 25% better, according to this logic, he'd be a better choice for winning NM than Clark. (Incidentally, Kerry Lost NM by .79%). By the way, I think all the government labs in NM made them like the vietnam vets -- that's the vibe I got.

In AZ, Kerry got 66% more votes than Clark (however, Clark doubled up Dean). Kerry lost AZ 55:45. So Clark's going to have to get much much more popular in AZ to actually make a difference in AZ. (And remember, McCain will be campaigning for the Republicans in AZ.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC