Reply #14: 'Old World American' is as scary as 'neocon.' Clarkies don't get that. [View All]

[JohnOneillsMemory]

Clarkies are now RED-BAITING me as a "Marxist radical" for wanting no part of another war criminal as savior from the current war criminals.
I'd expect that at freerepublic.com but not here.

(FrenchieCat, last time I put up refutations to YOUR points you ignored them, too. I've stayed up all night in debates over Clark. I'm not losing sleep over it anymore so don't whip me as as hit-and-run poster, ok?)

Wesley Clark and Bill Clinton violated the Posse Comitatus Act, War Powers Act, and Geneva Conventions.

I don't want Democrats to do that anymore than Republicans, GOT IT?

Slap a 'D' on his resume and deliver verbal flowers to the hopeful while ignoring the past evidence. That's how American Fascism has worked for decades and Clarkies prove it.

Clarkies, like Bushies, are so convinced of their guy's sainthood that his critics must be insane or the anti-christ, right?

Clarkies say: "But they're 'Democrats' so it doesn't count! They mean well, unlike Republicans."

Start here:
War Crimes Law Applies to U.S. Too, a letter from former Nuremberg War Crimes prosecutor Walter J. Rockler to the Chicago Tribune (5/23/99)
http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts/nurletter.htm

Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol 1)
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/93.htm

Much more here:
http://www.fair.org/international/yugoslavia.html

Clark specialized in training and strategy and used this at the Waco Branch Davidian stand-off and massacre in 1993:


http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clark.htm
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"Early in the siege, "Operation Trojan Horse" became a popular destination for special forces officers both from around the United States and from its closest ally, the UK. They came to observe the effectiveness of various high tech devices and tactics that were being tested against the Branch Davidians. Source: London Sunday Times, March 21, 1993: "FBI brings out secret electronic weapons as Waco Siege drags on" You can see a photocopy of the original article at:

The raid was on February 28. The London Times article ran on March 21. It's noteworthy that Waco became a focus for US and UK special forces officers so quickly. The 3/21 London Times report states that "observer teams from the American Delta Force and British SAS have *already* visited Waco." (Emphasis mine.) Organizing groups of officers to make a field trip normally takes far more lead time than a couple of weeks. This is the military, not a group of freewheeling bohemians who can pile in a van and travel across the country, or the globe, on a whim. Yet, there they were, with plane and hotel reservations, briefings, tours and the like, all arranged. Such organization implies pre-planning or at least very strong pre-existing relationships with Delta Force and SAS on the part of the officer in charge. It would have taken an officer with unusual connections and motivations to pull off this level of "show and tell."

By the way, the notion that Delta Force and SAS officers would make such a trip to observe the *FBI* using various secret high tech warfare devices is laughable. Who in the FBI would know how to operate them? In any event, the equipment and tactics used came from the military, not any law enforcement agency. In reality, the FBI was not in charge of the Waco siege. Its role instead was twofold: 1) to keep up fruitless negotiations with the Branch Davidians and 2) to act as the front for the real operation which was under military command and therefore entirely illegal."

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Clark's brains and verbal skills got him into training and propaganda work for the military-industrial complex. He's still doing it.

Upon retiring he ran with DARPA's John Poindexter, FEMA's James Lee Witt's corporate security consulting, and another company specializing in outsourcing industry (I've forgotten which one.)

His Lincoln's Day speech for Arkansas Republicans is a classic- His admiration for "Reagan winning the Cold War" and other propaganda memes of American Virtue mythology that leaves out all the terror of death squads, torture, destabilization, coups, starvation. And that's just in the United States!

Now he's working with NEWT GINGRICH and the HOOVER INSTITUTE on how to neutralize the UN as the PNAC plans for world hegemony are modified but not eliminated. He publicly criticizes the neocons mostly for being over ambitious and blowing the military-industrial complex's cover of 'spreading freedom.'

Some DU-ers think that his 'principles' of first buying dinner before bombing is 'liberal.' He knows how to put the bunting over the bodies to manipulate public opinion.

He still lies that Southern Command's task is 'the war on drugs.' And he STILL uses the 'few bad apples' method of promoting the School of the Americas. Unforgivable.

The only thing scarier than a stupid fascist is a smart one.