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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:40 AM
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73. What union workers are saying>>>

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Now thats funny!

wonderful and true diary.

afscme, which all the obamtes whined about being run by the top down, polled their membership 3 times before endorsing.

This is a disgrace. Its really about the changes at Unites national office and Change to Win. I dont know if many know her name, but if the legendary Unite organizer and union leader Evy Dubois was still around, she passed way at 96 I believe, this would never have happened. She was a friend of both Mrs. Rooselvelt and Mrs. Clinton. Nobody could beat that woman {all 5 foot of her)and nobody would have kept her from backing Hillary. Nobody.


Offend the Media - ABO - Anybody But Obama!
by Seymour Glass on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 11:09:22 PM EST


Re: Not On My Shift (2.00 / 1)


Mixing unions and caucuses is not going to result in true democracy as we see it, is it?



by crackityjones on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 01:57:16 AM EST


excellent diary (2.00 / 2)

the act of making these union members caucus at their work place is an intentional attempt to force them to knuckle under and caucus for the Union leadership's choice. The whole thing is sleazy.
I hope they stand up and vote for the other candidates if that is what they want to do. It is going to take a lot of guts to do that.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.



by MollieBradford on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 02:20:38 AM EST



Re: excellent diary (none / 0)

I agree that the most problematic aspect of this is having workers caucusing at their work place. There may be undue pressure (even if it is only perceived pressure) to vote in unison with the union position.
I think it would be better in the future to perhaps split the causus into 2 shifts - morning and evening? That way, people can caucus in their communities either shift, and after the second shift, the numbers will be combined? I have a job in my town hall, and I am very glad we do not caucus in my state. I think I would be very intimited to go against what is suggested by my boss or union.


by AnnC on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:30:42 AM EST
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Re: excellent diary (none / 0)


The good part of this is that people that would ordinarily not be able to caucus will now be able to do so. The bad part is that it is happening at their place of employment where their union leaders will be able to see who toed the line and who didn't. Since the decision to support Obama came from above rather than a ballot from the membership this whole process is suspect.

I fully support having as many Americans vote for our Presidential nominee as possible. But people should be able to do this within their communities like everyone else. The potential repercussions for not following the union leadership's decision is very real. Ideally people should be given time off to participate in the caucus process in their communities. That is the way our founders envisioned citizen participation in the electoral process and they have proven time and again how wise they really were.


Obama is openly requesting that Republicans determine the Democratic nominee for President.
by Undies Sided on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 10:58:28 AM EST
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