Reply #60: I wish they were Fox News only [View All]

[karynnj]

The problem I have is that they are things that people high in the campaign have done - repeatedly. You can also add the distortions on Obama's record - like the NH debate use of the Patriot Act. Obama, like Kerry, said that the Patriot ACt contained many awful provisions. Many were fixed in 2005/2006. The choice in 2006 was never between no Patriot Act and the new one, but between the new one and extending the worse old one. HRC also ignored that she voted the same way - and I bet if we searched she criticized the old Patriot Act in 2004/2005 again.

Like with "funding the war", she ignores she did the same thing.

Another Clinton falsehood was that Obama was "like Bush" on what to do going forward on Iraq. He wasn't, but just as the Republicans untruthfully accused Kerry of this in 2004, Bill Clinton twisted an Obama statement to say that recently. Here is a comment that explains what Obama said.

"Hillary said last night that Obama "said he agreed with Bush on the war in Iraq." Here are the actual facts: From the Chicago Tribune, July 27, 2004- Obama, a state senator from Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, opposed the Iraq invasion before the war. But he now believes U.S. forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation--a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration. The problem, Obama said, is the low regard for Bush in the international community. "How do you stabilize a country that is made up of three different religious and in some cases ethnic groups, with minimal loss of life and minimum burden to the taxpayers?" Obama said. "I am skeptical that the Bush administration, given baggage from the past three years, not just on Iraq. . . . I don't see them having the credibility to be able to execute. I mean, you have to have a new administration to execute what the Bush administration acknowledges has to happen." Now how does that translate to Obama agreeing with Bush on the war?"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/From_John_Kerry_Re_Swiftboating.html#comments

This actually sounds like Kerry in 2004 - and the media recognized in the Iraq Study Group's recommendations much of what Kerry proposed in 2004 and 2005 - things like having a regional summit that has not occured to this day.