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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:18 PM
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2. P.S. About arguing with freepers and those in denial. When they say
...that the polls were not accurate (despite the evidence that they were), ask them about the accurancy of the official result. Can they prove that Bush won? How? What numbers are they trusting? What is their source?

Wally O'Dell & buddies counting all our votes on central electronic vote tabulators, with their secret, proprietary programming code, and no audit trail? How reliable is that?

The news monopolies who got their data from the same source? Right--and who furthermore DOCTORED the exit polls on everybody's TV screens, on election day, hiding the fact that Kerry won the exit polls! How reliable are the news monopolies? (--they gave us completely wrong information about Iraq WMDs, and led us right into Bush's unjust war--how can they be trusted?)

As Jimmy Carter (highly respected international elections monitor) said, the US election system in 2004 didn't meet even the minimum requirements for transparency--that's why the Carter Center couldn't monitor the 2004 election.

The truth is that NOBODY KNOWS what the vote really was. And we are forced to use inferential evidence, such as the exit polls--which are used worldwide to verify elections and check for fraud--to determine what happened. And, upon analysing those polls, and other evidence--such as the blowout Democratic success in new voter registration in 2004--it sure looks like Kerry won, maybe by a landslide. That hyopothesis is at least as valid as the hypothesis that Bush won, and has more reliable and verifiable supporting evidence.
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