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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:12 AM
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22. 57,000 complaints,HouseJudiciaryCmtee: 18 orgianzation-izing theft types
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 04:42 AM by oscar111
Can we get some Dem Representative on the Cmtee to put those online?
Then we could catagorize them and add to your site.

Enough to convince any doubters about a Stolen Election.

I also like your point about titles that summarize the core of the article, not wander off into literary jokes. I hate "cute " titles that tell nothing of the content. One has to read down into each article to see what it really says.

A seed of what you seek is in the two summaries at http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection Just a seed, they have about fifteen cases of theft.

Also good for fast convincing of Joe, is my list of 18 ways to steal votes.. "voting issues forum " here .. title is "Vote-theft methods". Link is now belo: -->

I edited just now, and pasted the 16 plus 2, right here: {not the orig post, but in a RE: to it.}
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. Organized version of orig post, with additions
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 09:26 AM by oscar111
This list can convince Joe Citizen that the election was stolen. It startles many readers when they see details spelling out exactly how it was done. Useful for Letters to the Editor.
Also, the list is convincing of the need to REVOTE, not just recount.
If you have any methods to add, pls post a re: to this thread.
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LIST--- 16 WAYS TO STEAL
++++++++++++++++
BEFORE VOTE:
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--"register and toss"--RNC paid company to hire canvassers to register many in dem areas, + toss forms away
//--caging.. Palast detailed how thousands on rolls in black areas, were challenged by GOP, to knock them off rolls.
////--cop visits.. FL state police visit elderly black activists, question about terrorists.
///////--wrong location.. FL officials give paper the wrong vote locations to print.
/////--flyers.. GOP flyers in ethnic areas tell wrong locations, dates.
////--tough cards.. FL..tough punch cards sent to dem areas, normal cards to republican areas.
=================
/// DURING VOTE:
==================
--roadblock..FL cops roadblock 2 black polling places.
//----"few machines" method.... OHIO...few in heavily democratic precincts, many machines in repub ones
/////--flood rides...NH GOP hired a company to make a flood of calls to "need a ride" phone bank.
//////--challenges.. old method of challenging those in line.. also slows line.
/////----car plates.. Wiscon.? .. GOP follows indians after vote, copys down car plate no. {intimidation}
///////--machine innards
===secret programming.. admitedly secret.. only an idiot would buy Diebold.
===glitches all favor bush
===secret code that adds bush votes?
===after Kerry vote, light appears to show a vote for bush
//////--exit polls-- 4pm exit polls do not match final machine tallies in areas using e-machines, but match final tallies in areas using paper ballots.
e-machines are suspect!
//////--exit polls-- closing exit polls may have been altered, after 4pm EP's showed alarming Kerry win.
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AFTER VOTE:
=================
//--secret count.. OH Warren county uniquely locks out reporters
//--alter totals.. central location gathers precinct totals, alters the totals
// --"spoiled"... in nat'l elections, it is routine to toss 2 million ballots as "spoiled" by tiny errors, etc. Most of tossed are ethnic's ballots.
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SUMMARY:
================
57,000 election day complaints , a floodtide, to House Judiciary Committee.
12 Congresspeople call for an investigation.
We need a new election with pen on paper ballots, hand counted... the Canadian model. No machines of any kind. Much cheaper as well.
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 Add to re: above..few ethnic poll plces:One partisan runs election, not Bd

1. few poll places.... in dem areas, few voting places, .. in repub areas, many. Sum: in dem areas, few voting places with each having too few voting machines.
2. One partisan runs election... one man runs the whole election. This means one PARTY runs things. Bad idea. Better, a Board of all parties is on top of all. ---OH.... mr. Blackwell, repub., one man in control, made ludicrous rules that stole the election.
 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=5457

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Layout.. fast download is essential.
... DU's format is great. Allow for large type if you want middle agers to read it. White background is best. No long paragraphs.. break up blocks of words. Sub-titles also needed for long stories.

I organized cases in "vote theft" by time.. YOu might like that too.

BEFORE VOTE
DURING VOTE
AFTER VOTE

In fact, you might use my 18 kinds of theft, as subheadings to each of the 3 time categories listed above. Then, post the cases as they roll in, where they belong in the 18 kinds of theft.

Democratic Underground Forums - Vote-theft methods: a Quicklist to learn:good 4 Joe Citizen:startles him
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=5457

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Begin with a list of TOP TWENTY MOST OUTRAGEOUS VOTE THEFTS to catch the mind of Joe's who are busy.

eg.,,, top twenty:
1. FL.. cops roadblock 2 polling places in a black area.
2. OH..Warren county.. officials uniquely lock out reporters from seeing the votes counted.
3. WIS. {?} GOP activists follow Indians who vote, and write down their car licence numbers. To intimidate others who have not yet voted.
4. FL.. State Police visit elderly black vote activists and interrogate them about some supposed terrorist case. Intimidation again.
5. OH.. Few polling places in dem areas, many in repub areas.
6. OH.. in the few dem area polling places, few vote machines.. but many for the repub areas.
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