And what is the Cybernet Amway connection?
(I am still new but I assure you not a freeper, just interested in the topic. Since this is still alive I have some additional research to add. )
Amway-VanAndel-Devos establishments in Grand Rapids include (but not limited to) the Amway Grand Plaza, Amway Corporate Building, DeVos Place, Van Andel Arena, DeVos Hall, Van Andel Museum (used to be Grand Rapids Public Museum), The Van Andel Research Institute, to name a few. They are also involved with the Gerald R. Ford Presidental Museum.
CyberNet did IT Services and WebHosting for the VanAndel Arena (major concert hall) and DeVos Place (big conference center). This is not confirmed, but shouldn't suprise anyone if CyberNet Group did IT services for many more of the above establishments. This would make the Amway clan very big valuable bankroll client of CyberNet Group Inc, which the FBI recently raided and CEO Barton Watson committed suicide.
Are there still no confirmed links between this parent Cyberco Holdings, Cybernet Ventures(possible Diebold connection) , or Cybernet Systems (Ann Arbor)? People have been also trying to find connections between Accenture, Zeosync, Stryon/Halycon (CyberNet Group), Quixtar,/Alticor (Amway), to name a few, and consider also the worldwide Rupert Murdoch media establishment for more tin-hat research. Forgive me if this is not a complete list.
Heres the rub.... The questions are who and why?
If the GOP needed a corrupt corporation to infiltrate the voting system via software engineering and/or internet connections, a corrupt firm like Cybernet Group might be willing to cooperate for the right amount of $$. It turns out Barton Watson, its CEO, was also a man with a 150+ IQ, perhaps able to engineer this scheme independently. The vested Amway coorporation need not look any farther than their back yard at the already repudiated con-man that handles IT and web services for at least two of their biggest establishments. CyberNet Group came to our attention after the FBI raid for several fraud violations, and then the suicide. But please note these are still tin-hat speculations.
The Amway / Alticor Coporation is a huge bankroll for the highest eschalons of the GOP and the Christain Right. Make no doubt about it, these people have alot to loose with the NeoCons NOT in power.
Below are some very good examples of the amount of conservative power and money invested in these Amway/Alticor/DeVos/VanAndel connections:
Bush's Bagmen (Pioneers and Rangers)<snip>
Some Pioneers rely on a sort of pyramid scheme to gather money: They enlist others to fund-raise on their behalf, in exchange for recognition from the White House. "To have a photo op with Laura Bush, you raise $10,000," says one Ranger who asked not to be identified. "For the president, it has to be $20,000." The multilevel fund-raising is another tactic lifted from the corporate world. "Basically, it's an Amway sort of model," says Kevin Rennie, a former Republican state legislator from Connecticut who has monitored Bush's fund-raising effort. Appropriately, Betsy DeVos, whose husband heads the Amway empire, is a Bush Pioneer.
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Besty DeVos is a Bush Pioneer
White House for SaleHeritage Foundation Announces New DeVos Religion CenterlinkGuide to Instututions of Global Corporate Power (see Heritage Foundation/Richard DeVos)linkand
Behind the Conservative Curtain (again the Heritage Foundation /Richard DeVos)linkHeritage Foundation Board of Trustees (more familiar NeoCons and Van Anel)linkThe Private Contractor - GOP Gravy Train Blackwater also works other angles. One of the firm's founders is Michigan native Erik Prince, a former Navy SEAL. His father, Edgar Prince, helped religious right leader Gary Bauer found the Family Research Council in 1988. Erik Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos, is the chairwoman of the Michigan Republican Party. But Blackwater is a relative newcomer to the Washington influence game, especially compared with CACI and Titan, which have been trailblazers.
Blackwater's Best Kept Secret - Its Founder<snip>
A month ago, Blackwater USA founder Erik D. Prince enjoyed a surprising level of anonymity.
Not many people knew just how big his Moyock, N.C.-based company was. Few knew how prevalent private security firms were in Iraq. Even fewer knew that the sandy-haired , blue-eyed 34-year-old hailed from one of the wealthiest and best-connected families in Michigan.
And Prince liked it that way.
All that changed on March 31, when the grisly images of
four charred bodies of Blackwater employees flashed across television screens around the world.
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While Elsa Prince is still active in town, the most well-known family member is Erik’s sister,
Betsy. She married Dick DeVos, whose father, Richard, is co-founder of Amway, owner of the Orlando Magic basketball team and No. 216 on Forbes’ most recent list of the world’s richest people , with a net worth estimated at $2.4 billion.
Betsy DeVos is a mover and shaker in her own right. She chaired the Michigan Republican Party for several years and personally collected millions of dollars from the Princes and DeVoses for her top cause: school vouchers. She declined to comment about her brother for this story.
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Download the book that describes more neo-con brainwashing and GOP funding by Amway/Alticor.
Merchants of DeceptionDont forget these other related institutions (and more):
Creation Research Centerand
Van Andel Instituteand
Restoring the American DreamThere are some additional connections to the Carlyle Group (suprised?!) but still too obscure to post. Please excuse me if I don't hang around for the discussion. Nothing personal. But I am keeping up on the news at DU and reading the Election fraud posts.
I hope these are helpful contributions. Not intended to send people on a wild goose chase, just find the connections.
Thanks for being here. It has been a great comfort.