Reply #73: Have you ever seen a sorcerer actually pull an apple out of thin air and eat it? [View All]

[BurtWorm]

I've seen illusionists do something like it, of course.

Now, given what you know about your personal experience of the universe, do you truly believe you will ever come upon a sorcerer who can pull an apple or anything out of thin air? Do you think there ever was such a sorcerer with such talents, given what we know about the universe, who could do that?

Maybe you do. But whether or not you or anyone does believe in such a wizard, we're still left with the question of whether that belief can possibly take shape in a mind that is not wholly an epiphenomenon of an evolved nervous system. And how do you get there without taking a leap and starting to talk about something entirely irrelevant? Which is what you seem to have just done. I mean we really have to bridge that gap between the likelihood of our brain being epiphenomenal to our material bodies, given all material evidence, and the mere possibility of its being something that partakes in a larger universal consciousness. Once you take the leap, you've left the ground where the problem stands.

(Again, I've got to run. I'll come back to this.)