Reply #227: Truly only in math can there be proof - but science will - or will not -is [View All]

[papau]

an obvious binary decision as to will- or will not - where science will is belief/faith. To pretend otherwise is indeed what some on this thread attempt.

I like your sculpture concept - While we do indeed see more of the form that is intended (we begin to see truth revealed as untruth is struck away) as chips fall away, we always find we did not know the final form - or indeed if the final form could be made - until the end.

A sculptor may start carving a rock into a Klein bottle - but at some point the fellow will realize you can not get to there from here.

There are questions that can not be answered by science - to say otherwise is to express faith in that which is unlikely and which can not be proved or assumed.

I am afraid the terms that I apply to an observation of the obvious are standard terms. If the "other side" does not claim or use such terms it affects nothing - it only exposes their intellectual dishonesty.