Reply #20: Thanks, TechBear [View All]

[Brentos]

Thanks for a good response! Your knowledge of Egypt surpases mine, so for now I will concede that to you (which forces me to do more research, cool!).

I'm discussing from a believer's point of view who believes in the hisoricalness if not the 100% literal accuracy of the Bible.

<Taking my belief in a supernatural being out for one second>
My posit, as a later post-er reiterated, is that compared to other religions, the Bible contains the most historical truth in it. This is not a conversion conversation, but more intended for those who already believe (or who are curious as to why someone believes what they do). I am putting my thoughts/beliefs/ideas out in the world for discussion, not to convert, and not to be attacked (and, no, I don't believe you are attacking) and defeated. I make no claim as to what other do/should believe, just what I do and backed up by what I see as credible sources (just as many Democrats believe stories of election stealing versus the fact that we lost. Half our country believes one way, the others a different way, yet the "facts" are there for everyone. Fyi...I believe the elections were stolen.)

I believe (religion aside) that there was a historical group of people whose religion was that as laid out in the Bible (it probably changed a bit, evolved a bit, etc.) and that the historical nature of their tale is more true than not, and more true than many other ancient tales.</Taking my belief in a supernatural being out for one second>.

I do believe in God, but I don't pretend to tell others what they should believe, that is not the point here, but to discuss my thoughts, opinions, etc.

Your search on Hibaru was probably wrong, as I'm sure I'm not spelling it correctly.

Regarding the flood and such...I'm not defending how many have taken Christianity, I'm discussing my views/thoughts/etc. I have no desire to discuss why or why not others think what they do, but to discuss my views and engage in good discussions that may help me and others learn and grow. For example, your points on Egypt will encourage me to go study it a bit more, thanks!

I would also assert that there are first hand accounts of Jesus in the Bible. First hand accounts can be written many years later, as biographers often do. Can I prove it? Nope. But, I see no evidence not to believe it (Well, not enough to sway me, anyhoo!) :-)

Ohhh, and by recently, I mean religously. The 1800's is recent in the case of a 2000 year old religion. Although, I thought it was a bit more recent then you stated, my bad.

Thanks for the reply!