Reply #24: I can't figure out where you think I disagree with you ... [View All]

[etherealtruth]

If you read my posts I clearly stated that the Catholic church discriminates against gay people; I clearly state that is unacceptable bigotry. My point, from which I will not stray, has to do with American Catholics --- American Catholics generally do not agree with that ( 23% agree, 77% disagree; link to stats in earlier post). American Catholics ARE what we have and what effects us.

I can't find a single defense of the Catholic church (?)I am NOT backing away from anything I said. Alienating Catholics from the left will not help in any progressive agenda. You may disagree and there is nothing I can do about that.

I liken the Pope to the Chimp------I am horrified by his (chimp) agenda, his perversion of religion, his policies ... but I'm still an American. I don't defend the Pope, but I do defend American Catholics.

Is your assumption that I am trying to "shove religion" down your throat? I can't find a single "pro religion" statement that I made. In fact, that would be quite out of character for me as I consider myself an agnostic. I fear theocracy, but I don't fear people of faith.

I do identify many statements to the effect that religious bigotry is just as bad as any other kind of bigotry----I stand by that. I guess this is where we disagree (?).

I have obviously provoked a great deal of anger, I'm trying to be reflective about why----what is my responsibility in upsetting people?

My conclusion, at this point, is that this was a thread looking for commiseration (which we all need sometimes), and that I offered no commiseration, but took ideas in a different direction, deflecting attention from it's intended course.

Maybe I'm wrong ...